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re: Shoop turns down Auburn repeatedly
Posted on 12/25/15 at 3:21 pm to msudawg1200
Posted on 12/25/15 at 3:21 pm to msudawg1200
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VanGorder
Again, different scenario. He was released along with the rest of the staff.
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Posted on 12/25/15 at 3:26 pm to Crimson Legend
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but you must remember, that high school coach was the reason AU went to the NC twice during his time at AU.
Not sure that narrative plays outside of auburn.
I'm not even sure it plays that well inside of Auburn. Unless that high school coach was the bagman.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 3:27 pm to msudawg1200
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So, are those jobs that you'd leave mighty Auburn and the SEC for?
For the second time, they didn't leave, they were fired.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 3:31 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
I got a feeling this whole thread is worthless.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 3:33 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I got a feeling this whole thread is worthless.
It is. Similar to the whole "Like Cam turned down $300k from MSU to play at AU...yeah right" nonsense that has been spouted so many times, people forget what actually happened.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:07 pm to Titus Pullo
I rarely post but I was told by my Brother in Law last night the exact same thing. Auburn offered Shoop 1.5 Million a year and he turned it down repeatedly to stay at Penn State where he makes about $800,000 per year. He is on Auburn's Athletic Council. Said Gus is having a difficult time finding a good DC.
This post was edited on 12/25/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:09 pm to LSUREM
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I was told by my Brother in Law last night the exact same thing. Auburn offered Shoops 1.5 Million a year and he turned it down repeatedly to stay at Penn State where he makes about $800,000 per year. He is on Auburn's Athletic Council. Said Gus is having a difficult time finding a good DC.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:16 pm to msudawg1200
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Ok, I am a high school defensive coach. No DC worth his salt wants to be a DC for a HUNH Offense.
That's why you'll always be a high school defensive coach.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:20 pm to msudawg1200
Van Gorder was at Auburn in 2012. Gus Malzahn was at Arkansas St in 2012. The two have no connection other than each coaching at Auburn at different times.
This post was edited on 12/25/15 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:21 pm to LSUREM
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I rarely post but I was told by my Brother in Law last night the exact same thing. Auburn offered Shoop 1.5 Million a year and he turned it down repeatedly to stay at Penn State where he makes about $800,000 per year. He is on Auburn's Athletic Council. Said Gus is having a difficult time finding a good DC.
GTFO
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:23 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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bullshite. You're exact words in that diatribe was that both got out because it was a career killer. They were fired.
This is correct. However, why were they fired? Did Roof, who had previously been a successful coach, suddenly get stupid and forget how to coach defense? His last Auburn defense, statistically, was one of the worst ever at Auburn.
And Van Gorder's was even worse. Yes, Van Gorder was let go when Chizik was fired, but Van Gorder wasn't merely some innocent casualty of the Chizik firing. His shitty defense was one of the main reasons why Chizik got fired. Again, Van Gorder was a guy who had previously been successful. Did he suddenly forget how to coach when he got to Auburn? Maybe Auburn didn't have as much talent as one might expect, but we're talking about two guys whose defenses set school records in terms of suckage.
The original point is valid. Why would two previously successful DCs go to a team of the caliber as Auburn and set records...in back to back years...for being bad? Sure, Roof and Van Gorder are doing well, but what is it about the Auburn situation that would attract a currently successful DC, especially when Malzahn's future is tenuous. I can't think of anything.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:32 pm to plazadweller
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He is on Auburn's Athletic Council.
WTF is this?
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:35 pm to msudawg1200
It's amazing how dumb people in this thread are
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:40 pm to BamaGradinTn
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The original point is valid. Why would two previously successful DCs go to a team of the caliber as Auburn and set records...in back to back years...for being bad? Sure, Roof and Van Gorder are doing well, but what is it about the Auburn situation that would attract a currently successful DC, especially when Malzahn's future is tenuous. I can't think of anything.
Not that Auburn doesn't have its problems -- for the amount of talent they get, they've really underperformed over the last few years -- but both of them were fired/let go because they were terrible by Auburn standards, i.e. they fielded defenses that were awful in terms of what Auburn was used to. While that could point to a common denominator (if you want to blame Gus) it does take the wind out of the argument that Auburn itself is a DC graveyard. It'd be like a new Bama coach coming in and fielding a defense ranked in the 40s. That's not terrible. That's just terrible by Bama standards. Obviously Auburn has slightly lower standards for defense than Bama, historically, but most programs do.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:43 pm to LSUREM
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I rarely post but I was told by my Brother in Law last night the exact same thing. Auburn offered Shoop 1.5 Million a year and he turned it down repeatedly to stay at Penn State where he makes about $800,000 per year. He is on Auburn's Athletic Council. Said Gus is having a difficult time finding a good DC.
Seems legit. I'll allow it.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:45 pm to randomways
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While that could point to a common denominator (if you want to blame Gus)
Except Loeffler was the OC with Van Gorder, which is why I don't understand why BVG keeps getting brought up. You want to talk about why Roof and Johnson didn't work out? Fine. But to use BVG and Muschamp as the cruxes of your argument against Gus is fricking stupid. Gus wasn't around for one, and the other got offered a HC position because USC went full tard.
eta...not "your" argument, argument in general.
This post was edited on 12/25/15 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:45 pm to randomways
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but both of them were fired/let go because they were terrible by Auburn standards, i.e. they fielded defenses that were awful in terms of what Auburn was used to.
Yes and no, they were fired because they had shitty defenses by SEC and NCAA standards.
2011...81st (out of 120) in total defense...Ole Miss was the only SEC team worse.
2012...79th (out of 120) in total defense...Tennessee was the only SEC team worse.
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Obviously Auburn has slightly lower standards for defense than Bama, historically, but most programs do.
Auburn under Tuberville had very high standards for defense, and Auburn fans who remember that are probably really pissed off at the current state of affairs.
This post was edited on 12/25/15 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 12/25/15 at 4:48 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Auburn under Tuberville had very high standards for defense, and Auburn fans who remember that are probably really pissed off at the current state of affairs
That was kind of my point. Auburn has fielded great defenses in the past. So arguing that the place is a DC graveyard fails to take into account that it wasn't always overfocused on the offensive side of things.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 5:01 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
If Gus runs such a good program why is he not able to hire a DC?
With the money he is offering it should be no problem,unless there is a problem.
With the money he is offering it should be no problem,unless there is a problem.
Posted on 12/25/15 at 5:38 pm to Herman Frisco
What the frick are you babbling about? No one is saying his arse isn't on the hotseat.
All we're saying is if you want to use examples, stick to Roof and Ellis. All the others are fricking retarded.
All we're saying is if you want to use examples, stick to Roof and Ellis. All the others are fricking retarded.
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