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Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:04 pm to BIGJLAW
Saban's numbers are too tight to be the primary beneficiary.
As a matter of fact, this is going to sting Bama more than other schools.
What program promotes job development of coaches the best in the SEC?
Bama.
What types of programs will not have a problem with numbers? New coaches filling in after a cluster-f#ck.
What types of players will be the most targeted? High 4 and 5 stars who want more playing time.
I see this hurting Georgia too (we already went through our roster issue, and if we continue success then our coaches will move on to promotions elsewhere).
But there isnt a program better at pushing out top coordinators than Bama.
Saban is screwed (uga will be mini-screwed)
As a matter of fact, this is going to sting Bama more than other schools.
What program promotes job development of coaches the best in the SEC?
Bama.
What types of programs will not have a problem with numbers? New coaches filling in after a cluster-f#ck.
What types of players will be the most targeted? High 4 and 5 stars who want more playing time.
I see this hurting Georgia too (we already went through our roster issue, and if we continue success then our coaches will move on to promotions elsewhere).
But there isnt a program better at pushing out top coordinators than Bama.
Saban is screwed (uga will be mini-screwed)
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:04 pm to BIGJLAW
Brandon Kennedy (Grad Transfer from Bama) to UT or AU.
NOTE: Schools will make it harder for kids to graduate in 3 years. That way they cannot transfer.
NOTE: Schools will make it harder for kids to graduate in 3 years. That way they cannot transfer.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:08 pm to allin2010
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Schools will make it harder for kids to graduate in 3 years. That way they cannot transfer
I don't see that happening.
If a kid takes a full load, he will graduate faster.
If a kid does Maymester and summer classes while on the team meal plan and working out, the kid will graduate faster.
If a kid enrolls early, he will graduate faster.
If a kid takes college credit and dual enrollment in HS, then he will graduate faster.
None of that changes.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:13 pm to meansonny
Agreed that this will hurt Bama more than anyone. Ask yourself this... How often does a player transfer to a team that is loaded at his specific position? Bama is loaded at most positions already.
The only reason that Saban is supporting this publicly is to not appear to be against the players.
The only reason that Saban is supporting this publicly is to not appear to be against the players.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:20 pm to David Ricky
Good. Its over with.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:21 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
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Was one of the dumbest rules to have.
Was not and is not a dumb rule. Just failed to exempt the grad transfer. That has been corrected.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:21 pm to CivilTiger83
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Agreed that this will hurt Bama more than anyone. Ask yourself this... How often does a player transfer to a team that is loaded at his specific position? Bama is loaded at most positions already.
The only reason that Saban is supporting this publicly is to not appear to be against the players.
Thank you for your interest in the SEC and specifically the University of Alabama football program. I would try and compare it to the rules in the ACC but I honestly dont know jack shite about the ACC. I dont even know who the ACC Commissioner is because quite frankly I dont care
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:22 pm to meansonny
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Saban is screwed (uga will be mini-screwed)
You realize this applies just to grad transfers?
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:23 pm to CivilTiger83
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Ask yourself this...
How many blue chips graduate with eligibility remaining - that aren't drafted by the NFL?
This really doesn't seem like any kind of game changer, except that it's more fair on the players. As far as I'm concerned, as soon as a player graduates, his relationship with that university is terminated, and he should be able to do whatever the hell he wants.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:33 pm to meansonny
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I don't see that happening.
If a kid takes a full load, he will graduate faster.
If a kid does Maymester and summer classes while on the team meal plan and working out, the kid will graduate faster.
If a kid enrolls early, he will graduate faster.
If a kid takes college credit and dual enrollment in HS, then he will graduate faster.
None of that changes.
What will change is putting players in programs where they can take courses on-line and a heavier load. I would want to see the stats after this rule is in place for a year, showing the workload per semester per student athlete. All a school will have to do is hold back a required course to delay someone from graduating. I'm sure it is being studied as we speak.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:35 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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How many blue chips graduate with eligibility remaining - that aren't drafted by the NFL?
This rule doesn't apply to the bluechippers, it deals with the average player that can provide depth or fill a hole for another program.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:45 pm to Irons Puppet
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All a school will have to do is hold back a required course to delay someone from graduating. I'm sure it is being studied as we speak.
The school will withdraw offering a class to the entire student body because they want to slow down the graduation rate for 1 or 2 players?
Hmmmm.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:45 pm to Irons Puppet
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This rule doesn't apply to the bluechippers
So we're talking about 3 * guys smart enough to graduate quickly, and then have at most 2 years of eligibility left.
It just doesn't seem to me that the new rule is going to impact college football much - if at all. Again, it just seems like the right thing to do for guys that are motivated and graduate, but lack the talent to go pro.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:51 pm to meansonny
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The school will withdraw offering a class to the entire student body because they want to slow down the graduation rate for 1 or 2 players?
Hmmmm.
Or have it offered in the time frame to discourage players from overloading their schedule with other courses. Most schools have players grouped into certain degree programs. It wouldn't take much to manipulate the track to graduation.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:56 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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So we're talking about 3 * guys smart enough to graduate quickly, and then have at most 2 years of eligibility left.
It just doesn't seem to me that the new rule is going to impact college football much - if at all. Again, it just seems like the right thing to do for guys that are motivated and graduate, but lack the talent to go pro.
It is the right thing to do, that doesn't mean college football wants it to happen. I will use AU as an example. They lacked proven depth at OT next year, so they took a grad transfer from UMass to plug a hole. It could make a very big difference in a teams outcome. It enables a program to get a player to fill a position that they missed out on in recruiting.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 2:58 pm to Irons Puppet
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They lacked proven depth at OT next year, so they took a grad transfer from UMass to plug a hole. It could make a very big difference in a teams outcome. It enables a program to get a player to fill a position that they missed out on in recruiting.
Could just as easily have been JUCO.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 3:02 pm to Irons Puppet
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. It wouldn't take much to manipulate the track to graduation.
You are talking about manipulating an entire college (i.e. sociology) within a university for the sole purpose of keeping a couple of credits out of the hands of some highly valued backups?
If this does happen, do you understand the storm and hate that this would bring upon bother a university and athletic department if discovered?
We can agree to disagree. Maybe the University of Auburn might be this stupid. Not 99.9% of the universities out there.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 3:06 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Could just as easily have been JUCO.
Transfers are a more proven commodity than JUCOs. Most have been tested at the D1 level and you know you are at least getting someone who has proven himself in the classroom. Russell Wilson is an extreme example, but there are others out there.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 3:08 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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How many blue chips graduate with eligibility remaining - that aren't drafted by the NFL?
In 1997, UT had 2. Peyton Manning and Leonard Little. Both had completed their degrees before being named captains for the 1997 season.
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