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Posted on 6/5/20 at 9:22 pm to turnpiketiger
There's NO WAY to have some teams with a perm c-d opponent & others without. NOR will TSIO & DSOR be played as out of conf. games.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:07 pm to molsusports
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Florida--LSU and Auburn
Georgia--Auburn and Ole Miss
Kentucky--Mississippi State and LSU
South Carolina--Arkansas and Mississippi State
Tennessee--Arkansas and Alabama
Vanderbilt--Ole Miss and Alabama
Alabama--Tennessee and Vanderbilt
Arkansas--South Carolina and Tennessee
Auburn--Georgia and Florida
LSU--Florida and Kentucky
Ole Miss--Vanderbilt and Georgia
Mississippi State--Kentucky and South Carolina
This was the cd perms back when it was a 12 team conf. & 5-2-1 rotation. I'ld have to go back to give you specific schedules.
Here's TN's record against the other B6 teams beween 1992 (when the B6 started) & 2011 (Mizz./TA&M started 2012)
Alabama 10-9-1 (all W's between 1995-2006)
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Auburn 3-5
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Florida 5-15
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Georgia 12-8
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LSU 4-6
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"The Vols have played football for 121 seasons, starting in 1891; their combined record of 833–383–53 ranks them twelfth on the list of all-time win-loss percentage records .677 and ninth on by-victories list for college football programs as well as second on the all-time win/loss list of SEC programs 390–253–33 .601."
TN is considered a B6 for a very obvious reason. As you can see from their record with Alabama, it was pretty much an auto-"W" on their schedule (yet not too many LSU fans want to acknowledge that part of history.....it's just "what has TN done now?").
So, the point to this is why Tn. will be considered a B6.
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Now, what does this mean? It would be nice to figure out some kind of reasonable schedule format that is fair to all schools that can be proven as such by facts. What result that is - who knows?
But, as I posted to another person & on this site, there are @ least 2 conferences who are, possibly, making changes in the upcoming years. Will the SEC join them? The current rotation ends in 2026.
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Florida--LSU and Auburn
Georgia--Auburn and Ole Miss
Kentucky--Mississippi State and LSU
South Carolina--Arkansas and Mississippi State
Tennessee--Arkansas and Alabama
Vanderbilt--Ole Miss and Alabama
Alabama--Tennessee and Vanderbilt
Arkansas--South Carolina and Tennessee
Auburn--Georgia and Florida
LSU--Florida and Kentucky
Ole Miss--Vanderbilt and Georgia
Mississippi State--Kentucky and South Carolina
This was the cd perms back when it was a 12 team conf. & 5-2-1 rotation. I'ld have to go back to give you specific schedules.
Here's TN's record against the other B6 teams beween 1992 (when the B6 started) & 2011 (Mizz./TA&M started 2012)
Alabama 10-9-1 (all W's between 1995-2006)
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Auburn 3-5
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Florida 5-15
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Georgia 12-8
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LSU 4-6
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"The Vols have played football for 121 seasons, starting in 1891; their combined record of 833–383–53 ranks them twelfth on the list of all-time win-loss percentage records .677 and ninth on by-victories list for college football programs as well as second on the all-time win/loss list of SEC programs 390–253–33 .601."
TN is considered a B6 for a very obvious reason. As you can see from their record with Alabama, it was pretty much an auto-"W" on their schedule (yet not too many LSU fans want to acknowledge that part of history.....it's just "what has TN done now?").
So, the point to this is why Tn. will be considered a B6.
LINK
Now, what does this mean? It would be nice to figure out some kind of reasonable schedule format that is fair to all schools that can be proven as such by facts. What result that is - who knows?
But, as I posted to another person & on this site, there are @ least 2 conferences who are, possibly, making changes in the upcoming years. Will the SEC join them? The current rotation ends in 2026.
LINK
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:53 pm to southernboisb
No one disputes that UT is a historically great southern football program. What Fulmer and Chavis accomplished at the end of the last century was also very impressive.
There's nothing wrong with nostalgia about their history but that's not easy to use today for extra credit. A lot of once great programs have fallen from grace and may never recover.
None of that means any of these programs should be overvalued from 2020 onwards.
There's nothing wrong with nostalgia about their history but that's not easy to use today for extra credit. A lot of once great programs have fallen from grace and may never recover.
None of that means any of these programs should be overvalued from 2020 onwards.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:19 pm to tkeefer
By the year 2100 Mizzou will have played LSU a TOTAL of 15 games in the history of the programs. We need to get rid of divisions or add an extra conference game. This is ridiculous.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:19 pm to RD Dawg
Louisiana suffers from cancer in the form of losers who chase away industry and progress via frivolous lawsuits and terrible tax laws. Plus we have a lot of great in state football talent, if you know what I mean.. lol
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:23 pm to jnethe1
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. Plus we have a lot of great in state football talent, if you know what I mean.. lol
Yes, we know what you mean. Holy crap, you’re really going there? Right now? Jeez man.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:24 pm to Hogfan13
Well it’s true. So if it offends you then you should go back to pretending it’s a non issue.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:27 pm to jnethe1
You’re a bad human.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:27 pm to BurgTiger
One extra conference game doesn't do anything meaningful. Even with nine conference games it still takes the better part of a decade to complete home/away rotations with the opposite division. Playing an enjoyable home or road game a second time takes longer than Belushi takes to flunk out of college.
Plus you end up with unequal numbers of home versus away locations in a way that can give you a much harder or much easier schedule from year to year.
Plus you end up with unequal numbers of home versus away locations in a way that can give you a much harder or much easier schedule from year to year.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:39 pm to Hogfan13
No, I’m an honest one.
I used to say that we’re not that different. But these protests have shown me that they are different. They have no interest in equality.
I used to say that we’re not that different. But these protests have shown me that they are different. They have no interest in equality.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:14 am to tkeefer
And this is why people who say the old SEC schedule pre-expansion (before Arkansas and South Carolina) was better, are wrong:
LSU has played A&M and Arkansas more times than they've played Auburn, Kentucky, Georgia, Tennessee and Vanderbilt- teams they've been in conference with forever. Florida only 1 more game than Arkansas.
Consider- since Arkansas entered in 91, LSU has played Auburn and Florida every year.
So before expansion, LSU rarely got a chance to see half the SEC; they played Bama and the Mississippi schools.
LSU has played A&M and Arkansas more times than they've played Auburn, Kentucky, Georgia, Tennessee and Vanderbilt- teams they've been in conference with forever. Florida only 1 more game than Arkansas.
Consider- since Arkansas entered in 91, LSU has played Auburn and Florida every year.
So before expansion, LSU rarely got a chance to see half the SEC; they played Bama and the Mississippi schools.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:31 am to molsusports
Having the 2nd best record in the SEC doesn't mean we should say other teams are better than them either.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:33 am to BurgTiger
You really think NO CHANGES are going to occur in the next 80 years???
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:36 am to Scoob
WHAT "schedule" was there pre-1992? We've seen the posts about who did (NOT) play whom that much.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 9:37 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 7:18 pm to tkeefer
Jawja Tech
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:00 pm to southernboisb
quote:10 team conference, had a 5-6 (maybe 7) game conference schedule, team with the best percentage won.
WHAT "schedule" was there pre-1992? We've seen the posts about who did (NOT) play whom that much.
Look at LSU's matchups, we played Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss State. And then Florida, Kentucky, and occasionally Vanderbilt. Those are the games I remember, as well as the annual game with Tulane, a Texas game (A&M, or Rice, and then Arkansas mostly in bowls). Then the "big cross-country" games... get the occasional Pac 10 team, or the ACC team. And then creampuff filler.
I remember seeing Tennessee and that being a big deal, back in the 80s. Same for Auburn, the rotated in every once in a while and we were pumped to play them.
Things were different back then, weren't a lot of bowls and you didn't see a heavy schedule too often. Goal was to get to 8 wins, go to a bowl.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 10:05 pm to tkeefer
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AUBURN
Missouri -- 3
Texas A&M -- 10
South Carolina -- 12
Arkansas -- 29
Kentucky -- 33
Vanderbilt -- 43
Mississippi -- 44
Tennessee -- 53
LSU -- 54
Alabama -- 84
Florida -- 84
Mississippi State -- 93
Georgia -- 124
Not many people realize that UF and Auburn played a ton.
Hell, if they didn't stop the yearly series, UF would've played Auburn more than Auburn has played Alabama
Posted on 6/6/20 at 10:12 pm to TigerintheNO
78 Liberty Bowl and 2016 only two. Amazing.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 5:49 am to tkeefer
Why has bama played vandy so
Much?
Much?
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