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re: SEC Returning Offensive Production per stat area (per The Athletic)

Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:04 am to
Posted by PokeyTiger
New Iberia
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:04 am to
I don’t wanna piss off the other schools Rockie

I have respect for GA, TN, FL, aTm, and the second tier schools and I know their recruiting and their weak points.

I did bring up the one point on aTm and that was quite enough to make the point!
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:04 am to
SoG is big mad right now

The only reason he reason he created this data (Fake News, amiright?) is because he literally thinks LSU finishes last in the league......exposed


Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:05 am to
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The only reason he reason he created this data (Fake News, amiright?) is because he literally thinks LSU finishes last in the league......exposed



Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:06 am to
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I did bring up the one point on aTm and that was quite enough to make the point!



Hey Pokey, on your A&M point...........














..............I agree







Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:26 pm to
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A&M will be tough
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:27 pm to
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think he was stretching the truth a bit.
nope

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e will definitely need some tune up games
who doesn't?

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I think our offense will suffer a bit without them
no one thinks lsu is just going to pick up where they left off but "suffer" is stretching the truth a bit
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:28 pm to
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How is returning 6% of your passing yards experienced and productive
i said the players that are being plugged in are experienced and productive, which is true
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:29 pm to
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It remains to be seen what Brennan can do
only for someone who hasn't watched. when brennan has been in, he's proven he's good. the only question is if he can keep it up for a whole season and/or not get injured.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:30 pm to
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LSU being an obvious exception
well, to anyone not named summerofgeorge
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:36 pm to
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it is understandable to take a small step back
well then what are you blabbering about itt? my word. you stupidly said "very rarely do teams return almost nothing and just pick back up and rip through their schedule again." there's something in between being last in returning production and ripping through the schedule. everyone knows lsu will take a step back, certainly early on. but there's a huge difference between that and being at the bottom of returning production in the conference. clod

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LSU's 42% returning, by Connelly's formula, would be the lowest in the last 3 years for a P5 school
that's because of the all time season burrow had. but that doesn't mean brennan will suck. he's got proven coaches, plenty of returning experience on the oline, all world wr's and really really really good rb's. he doesn't have to set the world on fire.

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the level of turnover there is huge
no it's not and that's where you're wrong. burrow is taking his stats with him but tons of experienced talent remains.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:38 pm to
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LSU returns almost no running backs with production
you just confirmed that you're ignorant. that's ridiculous and you should stop commenting on cfb

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a smattering of offensive linemen who played in spots at times the last 2 years
ok. whatever bro
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:44 pm to
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you stupidly said "very rarely do teams return almost nothing and just pick back up and rip through their schedule again."


I mean, do you expect to go 15-0 next year again? If so, alright, but I think it's reasonable to not expect you to do that.

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there's something in between being last in returning production and ripping through the schedule. everyone knows lsu will take a step back, certainly early on. but there's a huge difference between that and being at the bottom of returning production in the conference. clod


Nothing in this thread suggests that level of turnover = final ranking in the conference. Anybody who would suggest that is an idiot.

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that's because of the all time season burrow had. but that doesn't mean brennan will suck. he's got proven coaches, plenty of returning experience on the oline, all world wr's and really really really good rb's. he doesn't have to set the world on fire.


Again, who the hell said Brennan was going to suck?

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no it's not


YES IT IS. Why do you guys keep trying to make it sound like you aren't losing a ton?

The argument is that your replacements are talented and you have a good coaching staff. That's fine, and true!

But arguing that you didn't have a MASSIVE turnover from 2019 to 2020 is just flat out false. And a really weird argument to try and make.

Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:44 pm to
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You return 29% of your rush yards
you're all over the place. try to pick a narrative. does returning production not mean all that much? lsu's rb's are freaking fire and you know it.

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Experienced, no, not at all
it's like you don't watch cfb at all.

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You return 21% of your offensive line starts from last year
this has been explained to you clearly. you seem dense

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Absolutely nobody has said that
what you have said is crap. you're crawfishing all over the place

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You seem to be the one who has taken "inexperienced"
you seem to not know what that word means given that you're applying it to lsu

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just inexperienced across the board compared to a very experienced team the year before
and again, this is not true as has been explained to you multiple times
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:46 pm to
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LSU returns almost no running backs with production

you just confirmed that you're ignorant. that's ridiculous and you should stop commenting on cfb



Feel free to correct me, then

The only running back on your roster that got anything more than spot touches was Chris Curry against Oklahoma. I legitimately would like to know how you think what I said is "ridiculous and confirms I am ignorant".
Posted by graves1
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Mar 2011
2149 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:47 pm to
Why are some of you (LSU Fans) having such a hard time with this thread? It's about Returning offensive production. It's not a predictions of the upcoming year. It's not opinion based. It's just stats of what you have coming back. SOG didn't create it, The Athletic did.
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:49 pm to
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you're all over the place. try to pick a narrative. does returning production not mean all that much?


I'm sorry, are you under the impression that 29% is a lot? How is that all over the place?

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lsu's rb's are freaking fire and you know it.



No, we don't know it. We know that they were highly ranked and are probably very talented, but that's kind of the ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD. They are talented but not experienced.

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it's like you don't watch cfb at all.



Again, as per the prior post, please detail all this experience that I am apparently missing from your returning running backs.

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this has been explained to you clearly. you seem dense


It's been pretty clearly noted that even in the rosiest outlook of "they played some in 2018 and came in during games in 2019 and therefore aren't included" that LSU's OL is clearly one of the least experienced lines in the SEC.

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what you have said is crap. you're crawfishing all over the place



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You seem to be the one who has taken "inexperienced"




So, I just want to nail this down, your opinion is that 2020 LSU has an "experienced" offense going into the season?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:52 pm to
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Why are some of you (LSU Fans) having such a hard times with this thread? It's about Returningoffensive production. It's not a predictions of the upcoming year. It's not opinion based. It's just stats of what you have coming back. SOG didn't create it, The Athletic did.



Even the most Bammerish Bammer didn't make arguments that even though we lost most of our starters on offense/defense that we returned super experienced guys.

The argument was "the dudes are talented and ready to step in", which is a totally reasonable argument for an LSU fan to try and make. Trying to argue that the offense returning is full of experience is just strange.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:52 pm to
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Nothing in this thread suggests that level of turnover = final ranking in the conference
you keep wrongly emphasizing "inexperience" which isn't true at all but then when you get called out on it, you start backpedaling and using nuanced language like "step back a bit."

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who the hell said Brennan was going to suck?
you when you keep referring to the production lost. brennan is going to be productive so it's not like lsu is going to lose 100% of burrow's stats

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YES IT IS
you are wrong and it's been explained to you multiple times. i'm sorry you don't understand.

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But arguing that you didn't have a MASSIVE turnover from 2019 to 2020 is just flat out false.
this is false because it lacks context. you are wrong.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:53 pm to
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spot touches
there it is again. when you get called out, you start parsing language. there's no way you think lsu's returning rb's don't return production. i don't think you're that stupid.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:55 pm to
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you keep wrongly emphasizing "inexperience"



Your 3 returning running backs have a grand total of 9 carries per game. I'm sorry, explain my mischaracterization of them as "inexperienced".

Your starting QB has thrown 21 passes vs SEC teams. I'm sorry, explain my mischaracterization of that as "inexperience".

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nuanced language like "step back a bit."


Again, you realize that experience level does not equal how good the team will be, right?

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you when you keep referring to the production lost. brennan is going to be productive so it's not like lsu is going to lose 100% of burrow's stats


Ok, so you clearly just don't understand what this whole stat thing is. This at least explains it a bit more.

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you are wrong and it's been explained to you multiple times. i'm sorry you don't understand.



I mean you can make things up all you want, that doesn't mean it's been "explained".

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this is false because it lacks context. you are wrong.



LOL, good lord
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 12:58 pm
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