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re: SEC permanently suspends Ken Williamson after Auburn-Georgia review

Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48894 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:19 pm to
they don't show a phone number


that's weird a little bit?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
33753 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:20 pm to
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This off season there should be a purge of SEC Refs. It's long overdue


Jason Autry's crew should be next.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48894 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:22 pm to
I think I believe you


In Arkansas, we've got some blog type things similar to this, but this seems a little more legit. The "Arkansas Times" is comparable to this, they are fricking leftist looney birds.



These dudes in Alabama are the opposite, religious conservatives and political it seems
Posted by MrMojoRisin
Parts unknown
Member since May 2014
8170 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:25 pm to
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It's not a satire or Bee/Onion type site if that is the question. I wouldn't call them particuarly good and they will definitely run stories that are less than verified or are incredibly biased, but they are at least a "real" news site. Another source for this would be preferable though for sure.


The above is correct imo. They don’t make things up per se, But will run with rumor and innuendo that sometimes turns out to be false.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 4:44 pm
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
40331 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:28 pm to
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they don't show a phone number


that's weird a little bit?


Not really in today's world, for a completely online company I don't think. Looking at a few online only news outlets, I didn't see any phone numbers listed.

I don't know if the story is legit or not, just merely the site itself is a real news site. Incredibly biased site, but a real one. They will definitely run a story with shaky validation behind it and it may turn out to be false, then again the big boys do that too
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 4:31 pm
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6819 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:31 pm to
I have 3 friends that ref. Two do high school and the other does DII.

The DII ref watches film each week of every game the teams has played. Sometimes he goes back to past years to watch certain plays and players. Then they have zoom meetings and discuss what they have noticed. Opposing teams will send in info if they want certain things looked at. The crew will discuss penalties that each team make that are called and not called. Before the game a ref will talk to the coaches on things they have noticed on film that their players are doing and they will be watching. After the game he has to write a report on the game. Then he explains in detail what penalties he called.

Each official is graded by the league not just the crew. He wants to move up to DI, so he works 30 to 50 hours a week during football season. He also has a regular job that pays the bills, because officials don’t make much money. You can have a good crew, but the referee(white hat) can make them all look bad.

Each crew is a team. The white hat is the coach. He can overturn any call another official makes. The officials take their lead from him. One of my friends did a JV game and called a false start and the white hat overturn it. He yelled at him in the huddle and told him to quit calling the petty shite and let them play.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 4:32 pm
Posted by ChknDinnerDawg
Jefferson,GA
Member since Sep 2018
17 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:40 pm to
Would not have helped at all in that play. The ball certainly crossed the goal line, but the question was when was control lost.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
21621 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:44 pm to
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I think you can still clap, but the timing and such matters. It has to mess with the snap count. If there is no snap count going on, how can you mess with it?


A defensive player can not clap at any time now. For any reason, even to get another players attention. This is a video that explains 2025 rule changes for college football.

2025 College Football Rule Changes

It is addressed at the 2:21 mark.

“The defense can not clap. Period.”
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
5068 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:46 pm to
That isn't what the rule states. It says defenders cannot clap, period. Any instance of it, regardless of whether the offense even reacts to it, is considered delay of game by the defense and is a 5 yard penalty.
Posted by Frog Hide
Member since Oct 2025
712 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:47 pm to
So, he is "permanently surrendered" from calling games, not fired from the SEC?

What is his new position?
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
3773 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:48 pm to
"news" is maybe a stretch. since its founding it's mostly been owned by ppl actively involved in partisan politics, as it is currently. as such, most of their stories are of local political interest with kind of an establishment GOP kind of spin on them usually. nothing too controversial.

but a scoop like this is definitely very unusual for them. maybe they got tipped off? you'd still like to read it somewhere else that actually does reporting on this type of thing in normal times to confirm it imo. the longer this goes with out any other outlet reporting it, i would definitely maybe start to question it.

but you gotta assume we'll find out soon enough.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48894 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:51 pm to
I think all this is fake



I bet it's gumps fricking with aubies
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48894 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:52 pm to
if it's fake, they did a pretty good job
Posted by 6columns
Member since Jun 2024
2471 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:53 pm to
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Also, JA scored on the play before the “fumble”. The ref was obviously determined that Auburn would not go up 17-0.


OK, but Arnold should also not have given the refs the chance to make that call by holding on to the fricking ball.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 4:54 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:56 pm to
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A defensive player can not clap at any time now. For any reason, even to get another players attention. This is a video that explains 2025 rule changes for college football.

2025 College Football Rule Changes

It is addressed at the 2:21 mark.

“The defense can not clap. Period.”


I'm still not sold. He only shows when they are in the process of snapping the ball.

Here is the rule:

quote:

7-1-5a-5. No player shall use words or signals that disconcert opponents when they are preparing to put the ball in play. No player may call defensive signals that simulate the sound or cadence of, or otherwise interfere with, offensive starting signals. The terms “move” and “stem” are reserved for defensive cadence and may not be used by the offense. The offense may use a “clap” as a starting signal and this signal may not be used by the defense.


If the team isn't putting the ball in play, aka doing snap count etc, then I don't think it's a penalty, and it shouldn't be either.


Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
40331 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:57 pm to
They don't run just fake articles. Their source may be completely wrong and they end up recanting the story, but they don't do troll pieces.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 4:59 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

That isn't what the rule states. It says defenders cannot clap, period. Any instance of it, regardless of whether the offense even reacts to it, is considered delay of game by the defense and is a 5 yard penalty.


Ok, but that's not how I'm reading it.

quote:

7-1-5-a-5. No player shall use words or signals that disconcert opponents when they are preparing to put the ball in play. No player may call defensive signals that simulate the sound or cadence of, or otherwise interfere with, offensive starting signals. The terms “move” and “stem” are reserved for defensive cadence and may not be used by the offense. The offense may use a “clap” as a starting signal and this signal may not be used by the defense.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
48894 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 5:00 pm to
I hear ya bro


I've done some pretty deep searches on leftist fake news sites, and it's obvious those sites are run by lazy asses - they have the exact same "editorial board" and "founders" for like ten different websites.

these guys clearly don't do that


these guys are not lazy, even if it was fake.
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
2062 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 5:01 pm to
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UGA didn't score on the drive. Primarily because they produced a hell of a makeup call negating a 30 plus yard UGA gain to inside the AU 5 by calling a legal block by RB Cash Jones an illegal blindside block.


And that doesn't have one damn thing to do with not charging Georgia a timeout when Kirby was calling for a timeout. That was a horrible decision by everyone involved, at every level.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
40331 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 5:03 pm to
If we don't see Ken do any SEC games the rest of the year, probably a safe bet the story is true.

I would be curious if nobody else really reports much on it, yet we don't see him again, how much legs that gives to the gambling issue at hand and if the SEC is trying to do this all quietly so that doesn't get out.
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