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re: SEC Job Rankings by tier

Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:58 am to
Posted by EGO3x
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:58 am to
Florida low key became a tough job with the emergence of Bama and Georgia's dominance. Also surrounded by Florida State and Miami.

That job used to be considered the best.

Same reason Tennessee and Auburn can't seem to find themselves anymore. Bama and Georgia are sucking the life out of those programs.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:12 am to
Texas couldn't win at a high rate in the Big 12.

What would make people think they will be a top job in a much tougher conference?
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:17 am to
That state is probably the most recruited state in the nation. Much competition from out of state.

It doesn't help that UCF is now in a power 5 conference.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:23 am to
It is probably a good idea not to fire him after one losing season.

He complained that Arkansas wasn't getting enough money in NIL.

Now the big money supposedly heard and will deliver.
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4458 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 1:19 pm to
Cherry pick? Starting at 2012 when A&M and Missouri joined is not cherry picking. Starting at 2012 leaves out a 9-win 2010 season for Mullen.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20411 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

this is easily the best/most accurate ranking (and comments) ITT; yet you are getting downvotes

That's because people's pride and egos are getting involved.

A&M has spent the money to be a Tier 1, they have the facilities and get the recruits. It's the atmosphere from the AD and boosters that knock it down.

I think Jimbo honestly had something brewing there after the first couple seasons. But it was going to take time and work to do it right, and there was a lot of pressure applied (outside distractions) to speed up the process. "Hey, we're not spending for 8-4, you need to be in Atlanta NOW". That pressure and desperation caused a collapse... and it's not going away for the next guy. A&M has demands, not expectations. That's why they aren't Tier 1, because they can't hire a coach and then leave him alone to do what he needs to do.

You can do that at LSU, for example, because Saban did it and it worked. So after that, the AD and HC could tell the boosters "Hey Bob, that really sounds interesting. Now get out of my office, I've got work to do".
Being able to do that seperates the top tier from the rest of the ambitious group, and lets some teams be better than you'd expect (Kentucky now, Mizzou, etc).

NOT being able to do that bumps you down as a job prospect.

Posted by Opry
Member since Oct 2023
2024 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:38 pm to
Auburn definitely not in top half of SEC. They just make you think it with their bS narrative.
Posted by Broz1839
STL
Member since Aug 2019
398 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:07 pm to
Actually Mizzou is a sneaky good gig.. state produces enough elite talent to have a good base..can the coaches keep them to stay home is the key
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14106 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

Arkansas, Ole Miss and State are on the same tier.


Along with South Carolina and Kentucky.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21279 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:23 pm to
Correct.
Posted by Dwight Schrute Reb
2022 CWS National Champs
Member since Jul 2020
818 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

How would you rank SEC football jobs by tier if they were all open today? Including OU and Texas. For me:

Tier 1: Bama, LSU, A&M, UGA, Texas

Tier 2: OU, UT, UF, Auburn


Big gap


Tier 3: Ole Miss, Arkansas, South Carolina

Tier 4: UK, Mizzou, Moo State






Vandy


What is your criteria for this hypothesis? Just curious really. Did you consider the financial stakes for said jobs? Fan support? NIL support? How about wasting resources? Stealing State resources from say a children's hospital to supplement the football program? I'm just curious.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14106 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:38 pm to
Well in football....

Tier 1

Alabama, Georgia, LSU

Tier 2

Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, A&M

Tier 3

Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Arkansas, Missouri, Kentucky, South Carolina

Tier 4

Vanderbilt
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 9:40 pm to
There are only two tier one jobs in the SEC, Alabama and Georgia. And Georgia is only tier one now that Kirby has put them over the top. They were not before.
Posted by JalapenoJoe
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2023
491 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

Soft Inscure EarlyCuyler3


Wouldn’t it be nice if you could get a job on any tier BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 10:16 pm
Posted by JalapenoJoe
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2023
491 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:17 pm to
The Bama job after Saban leaves drops to Tier 2 but the athletic program overall at Bama is literally Tier 3 because all the “had” was 1-sport
#1-HitWonderU
Posted by Dwight Schrute Reb
2022 CWS National Champs
Member since Jul 2020
818 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

Wouldn’t it be nice if you could get a job on any tier BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA



I'd love to be a fired SEC coach. I could live on that shite forever.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:32 pm to
quote:

Wouldn’t it be nice if you could get a job on any tier


frick no, why would I want that Stephen? I mean, I do have one, just work every few weeks or so when I feel like it.
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3277 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:35 pm to
A lot of short term memory by folks on this board. Gators are down right now but it really wasn’t that long ago they had this conference by the nuts for 15 years…
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36116 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

short term memory by folks on this board. Gators are down right now but it really wasn’t that long ago they had this conference by the nuts for 15 years



Agreed

When they have the best head coach(es).

Florida has competition but great advantages as well. If Nick or Kirby had been in Gainesville instead they would have likely enjoyed similar success.

JMO but I think you could sustain that kind of success at:

Tier 1: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, Texas

Tier2: Auburn, Tennessee, Texas A&M

Tier 3: Missouri, MSU, Ole Miss

Tier 4: Arkansas, Kentucky, South Carolina

Tier 5: Vanderbilt

Missouri is a sneaky decent job. The Mississippi schools are too. A&M could be tier 1 if they landed a really great coach who could remake the culture.
Posted by Aggie in TN
Franklin TN
Member since Jun 2022
1228 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 7:31 am to
That’s what I’m getting at.

Bama is tier 2 without Saban. And Georgia would be close to tier 3 if not for smart.

Remove the current coach and history and make an honest assessment.

I don’t think most fans in here can do that.
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