re: SEC enrollment

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Who do you think has better Universities? Alabama or Mississippi?

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Alabama. Who has better Universities, Alabama or Texas?

If you are telling me that Alabama does not have the population to sustain its universities, than you are telling me yall are wasting state funding and should shut some universities down.


And I would agree. Our state has that issue with some of our schools.

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Then decrease the enrollment. It makes absolutely no sense for a state funded school to not predominantly educate in state students.

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Arkansas is approaching a majority OOS student body. Freshman classes already are majority OOS. The benefit is putting degree-holders on the doorstep of growing local companies. The state of Arkansas doesn't produce enough college graduates as it is to fill the jobs we're producing these days.

We're essentially stealing good people from other states when we get that whatever percentage it is that sticks around.

I'm for it.

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I bet yall are losing money in terms of scholarships given out, to retaining said students.

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None of the OOS students get "in-state tuition". They get a reduced rate, less than full OOS if they meet higher academic standards.

The infrastructure at the university is already largely in place. The private sector is housing most of them, which is obvious when you drive around Fayetteville and see the big apartment blocks that have sprung up in recent years.

I doubt the state is losing a dime on its OOS population.

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Are they not giving scholarships to entice OOS students to attend?

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Those who meet higher academic requirements get a "tuition break" from OOS prices. That's a scholarship, I guess.

Then they pay rent at $700/person and spend money living here, for at least as long as they are in school.

Out of state students have started tech and retail companies in Fayetteville, including the frat-bro Fayettechill Clothing Co.

It's an investment. We have a booming local economy that needs educated workers. The state unemployment rate is at a record low.

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Those who meet higher academic requirements get a "tuition break" from OOS prices. That's a scholarship, I guess.

Then they pay rent at $700/person and spend money living here, for at least as long as they are in school.

Out of state students have started tech and retail companies in Fayetteville, including the frat-bro Fayettechill Clothing Co.

It's an investment. We have a booming local economy that needs educated workers. The state unemployment rate is at a record low.

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I just feel you will get gutted the same way we did in this effort.


Texas students who cant quite get into A&M or UT come to a fun SEC schools for 4 years, than bounce back to Texas because it has 10000x the opportunities that Arky or Louisiana does.

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If you are telling me that Alabama does not have the population to sustain its universities, than you are telling me yall are wasting state funding and should shut some universities down.

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What?

Bigger universities are able to become better academic institutions, that almost fact in every case. Every university in a state's primary goal is not to just educate people of the state. It is also a method to attract people to the state and bring revenue from outside.

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bounce back to Texas because it has 10000x the opportunities that Arky or Louisiana does.

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Yeah, most do. We have a unique situation in that our university is located in a rapidly growing metro with lots of white collar corporate jobs and a high QOL. They don't even have to leave Fayetteville to start their careers.

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Meanwhile, A&M is trying to become the fallback school for East Coast kids by heavily advertising in places like Washington, D.C.

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Nothing wrong with recruiting out of state or out of the country. It is valuable to have that diversity. A&M is still heavily in state by a very large margin.

The top out of Texas cities our grads live are:
1. San Fran
2. Washington DC
3. New York
4. Denver
5. LA

However Alabama has more out of state than in state. That, to me, is way passed the point of a state university.

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They don't even have to leave Fayetteville to start their careers.

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Fayetville is my second favorite SEC town to Athens. I love it there. Just doesnt seem big enough to ever truly be considered a town that can retain college graduates in numbers that are material..