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Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:44 am to madmaxvol
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:44 am to madmaxvol
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Things have a tendency of reverting back to the norm.
I don't know man. What you just posted is a pretty depressing story for UT football. Basically UT has been in a 15 year period that is as bad as it has ever been. That's kind of a long time. So the question is whether things will revert back to the norm OR is this the new norm?
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Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:45 am to MizzouTrue
The past is the past. Not that we've been historically historically good, but this also includes a few seasons that sre absolutely atrocious by even our meager expectations.
It is what it is. Our future is as bright as it has ever been in program history. Stoops is building things the right way here and we are reloading and not just rebuilding. This list is gonna look alot different in 10 yrs for sure.
It is what it is. Our future is as bright as it has ever been in program history. Stoops is building things the right way here and we are reloading and not just rebuilding. This list is gonna look alot different in 10 yrs for sure.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:53 am to UKWildcats
I agree UKWildcats .... Kentucky is no longer an easy out under Stoops and I've always said your football fans are highly underrated.
The East is getting better all the time.
The East is getting better all the time.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:54 am to CarolinaGamecock99
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We arguably should have won the east 3 out of 4 years.
Yeah the 2011 loss to Auburn and 2013 loss to Tennessee still sting to this day.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:55 am to madmaxvol
Ouch! Enjoy your spot in the cellar whipping boy! B.S. protest, Coaching resignations/changes, horrible recruiting (even by our standards, far below yours) and your teams were SO BAD you only managed to go 2-5 against us. 
Now we are building up once again and your stuck settling for your 4th or 5th pick as the guy that is supposed to bring you back while the entire league laughs at you. But hey at least you have a big stadium that used to fill up!
Now we are building up once again and your stuck settling for your 4th or 5th pick as the guy that is supposed to bring you back while the entire league laughs at you. But hey at least you have a big stadium that used to fill up!Posted on 7/30/19 at 10:56 am to Lou2theZou
Yep. It took literally took cancer and protests for the Vols to beat us
Posted on 7/30/19 at 11:05 am to scrooster
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Man oh man do y’all have a karma kickback coming from mUSChamp and it is going to be glorious.
I like Muschamp, but he had a bad record at UF, there is no denying it. BTW, he is 2-5 in the UF/Carolina game. 1-3 as UF head coach and 1-2 as SC head coach. I don't think he likes this series no matter which team he coaches.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 11:08 am to elposter
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I don't know man. What you just posted is a pretty depressing story for UT football. Basically UT has been in a 15 year period that is as bad as it has ever been. That's kind of a long time. So the question is whether things will revert back to the norm OR is this the new norm?
good question and I think I agree with your thinking. Some ultra blue-blood schools like bama/USC/OU can go moderately long stretches of mediocre but always bounce back because that's simply who they are. Tennessee I'm not so sure. They've had 2 major elite stretches under neyland and fulmer and have been very solid with stretches without them, but they haven't shown to be as bounce backable as the others. They started going downhill after 2001, were average in 1 year under the next coach, were bad under the coach after that, and TBD under the current coach. Just because they were good a long time ago doesn't mean anything going forward. Nebraska is a textbook example; big time elite football power that was utterly dominant even in the 90s but fell off the face of the earth afterwards.
UT is too rich of a program to just be at like a kentucky or missouri level for eternity, but I think the days of them being nationally elite mainstays are over. Tier 2 programs (not an insult btw, just saying the non-blue bloods) usually have a small window after being shitty to right the ship, and I think they've surpassed that. Future will be interesting. We're seeing it wiht UF at the same time. After spurrier UF was trash but they got urban to get em back. After meyer they were mostly trash under muschamp and continued being trash under mac. They're getting into dangerous territory but we'll see how mullen does.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:09 pm to WG_Dawg
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Some ultra blue-blood schools like bama/USC/OU can go moderately long stretches of mediocre but always bounce back because that's simply who they are
Am I the only one that believes SoCal is in a similar downward spiral to UT's?
Also, let's look at Michigan, a program in which I am very familiar. They too might be considered a blue blood trending downward.
IMHO the face of college football is fast changing, morphing even, into a free for all among those with the highest paid staffs and fertile recruiting grounds in temperate climates. We all (P5) have money these days. The arms race of facilities is well known.
So those with big time prospects within a 250 mile radius of their program, with well organized HCs and ADs and fanbases who back them, with top notch facilities and a young dynamic highly motivated staff that can both coach and recruit ... these are the programs on the climb who will eventually challenge the existing blue bloods.
I hate to admit this but Clemson is one example.
Michigan, SoCal, et al, have declining state populations and withering talent pools and they are both fast losing their national reputations in terms of recruiting.
Tennessee made some really bad hires and that goes immediately back to bad leadership at the top. They will to recover to their 90s level anytime soon.
There are three stages to everything in life .... everything.
Growth, maintenance and decline. That is the universal law of entropy.
Tennessee has now settled into a decline phase and it is very very difficult to recover from that in any meaningful way. They are facing obstacles they have never faced before. The same could be said for SoCal and Michigan.
Past power houses that have now fallen off the face of the earth are endless. All three mentioned above are in trouble.
Texas is a whole nuther story and is on the watch list if Herman falters.
Ohio State is like Bama, except in the midwest of course and without as many titles. But even Ohio State could see a decline of sorts given how tough it is for them to recruit in the south these days.
I mean look at FSU. Do you see them bouncing back anytime soon? Would you even rate them a blue blood? What about Miami?
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:21 pm to 1badboy
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Doesn't matter the west will kick their arse in the SEC Champ. game!
It won't be by LSU, though. how long has it been since you won the west? Shoot, how long has it been since you finished higher than 3rd?
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:27 pm to MizzouTrue
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SEC East Records since 2010
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Also includes Missouri Big 12 games
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:28 pm to MizzouTrue
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SEC East Records since 2010
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Edit: Also includes Missouri Big 12 games (2010-2011) where they compiled an 18-8 record.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:28 pm to kywildcatfanone
If I remove those 18 wins (literally just the wins) Mizzou would still have a better record than UK
52-46>49-63
52-46>49-63
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:29 pm to scrooster
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hate to admit this but Clemson is one example.
Disagree completely here baw
Clemson will fall apart and the NCAA will ravage That program like SMU
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:30 pm to WG_Dawg
Clemson and Knoxville are 100 miles apart. If Clemson can be consistently elite, we can go back to being elite. Its all about the coach.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:33 pm to tjv305
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Damn Muschamp made us look bad. Poor USCe is about to drop down this list in the next couple years .
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2010 / Meyer - 8
2011 / Champ - 7
2012 / Champ - 11 <------------right here
2013 / Champ - 4
2014 / Champ - 7
2015 / Sharkboi - 10
2016 / Sharkboi - 9
2017 / Sharkboi - 4
2018 / Merlins - 9
Looks to me that whatever damage Muschamp did, was un-done by 2015, and then done again in 2017 by Sharkboi. That wasn't Muschamp's fault - he was too busy winning 9 games in Columbia, SC then.
I mean, why not blame your problems today on Ron Zook while you're at it....
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:36 pm to madmaxvol
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Ranking Tennessee's worst 10 season stretches of football by winning percentage.
1903- 1912 - 0.4
1902-1911 - 0.422
1904-1913 - 0.422
1905-1914 - 0.489
2009-2018 - 0.496
2008-2017 - 0.496
1906-1915 - 0.506
2005-2014 - 0.512
2004-2013 - 0.536
2007-2016 - 0.535
2006-2015 - 0.535
3 of the top 6 10-season spans in Missouri's history, and 6 of the worst 11 10-season spans in Tennessee's history overlap that time-frame.
Things have a tendency of reverting back to the norm. Till then...congrats on your ceiling being above our floor.
The Earth will revert back to the USA being attached to Europe, before UTjr. will climb themselves out of that mess......
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:39 pm to MizzouTrue
Pls update the OP showing Mizzou as back-2-back bEast champs.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:44 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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Disagree completely here baw
Clemson will fall apart and the NCAA will ravage That program like SMU
Clemson is cheating, everyone knows that is a fact. They've already been busted in the New Springs Church scandal .... but nothing happened.
Three of the four major sanctions charges brought against Ole Miss were for players originally committed to Clemson. Players Freeze simply outbid Clemson for in order to sign them.
Nothing happened to Clemson.
Clemson has hooers recruiting for them, banging out prospects during visits and even going to their HS games and that's a well known fact in this state .... yet nothing happens.
Did anything happen to UTk when Phat Phil Fulmer was doing the identical same thing in the 90s? No, because the NCAA gave UTk immunity in the Albert Means deal negotiated by the Hyams brothers.
Same stuff going on at Clemson right now.
The NCAA is a toothless transsexual fig under their current Emmeret (sp) leadership. What's more telling than UNC walking away scott free after what they did?
Dabo turned in Ole Miss and everyone knows it and he got immunity for doing so. Clemson exposed all the skeletons .... it was a God fearing coach on God fearing coach sword fight and Dabo won.
Nothing is going to happen to Clemson anytime soon. Hell, they were doping all last season and got off by sacrificing two or three players before the playoffs when the entire team should have been piss tested and disqualified.
Their fricking athletic dorm parking lot looks like a Kia and Escalade dealers lot.
The NCAA is shite.
Posted on 7/30/19 at 12:52 pm to elposter
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So the question is whether things will revert back to the norm OR is this the new norm?
Looks like things are reverting back to the norm:
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