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re: Sec Country: LSU/UF fact and fiction(long)

Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:08 pm to
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:08 pm to
You know as well as I do what was meant. The contention was that UF wanted to reschedule because they didn't have a QB.

In no universe is that a fact.
Posted by BoudreauxinGA
Member since Aug 2007
946 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:09 pm to
"We offered our buses, planes, etc. Again, total crap.This game should have been played this weekend. However, LSU should be more cooperative in trying to reschedule this for 11/19. Flat out refusing to cooperate is just as bad as what UF pulled this weekend. "

uggh I think not...Joe Alleva has this to consider regarding Nov 19th...BR was recent victim to a devastating and business hurting 1000 year flood....last home game for seniors that night....economic impact of home game in community for food, lodging and events is at least 6.5 million, not counting LSU portion of gate and concession....financial commitment to South Alabama who also wants to play ball. There is NO REASON TO BEND ON THIS....Where are your loyalties?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65254 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:10 pm to
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November 19th here we come. If lsu refuses they should forfeit and be kicked out the SEC.



you will get beat by presbyterian
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:12 pm to
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Every press release from UF said that the game was scheduled for noon Saturday with the caveat that they were monitoring updates for potential changes in time.

The whole waiting too long thing is pointless. The game was never getting moved to Baton Rouge.


dude there was never a plan of wait until sunday even.

your AD blew it on his way to retirement.

face the facts not fiction
Posted by setinways12
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
989 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:12 pm to
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November 19th here we come. If lsu refuses they should forfeit and be kicked out the SEC.


If Florida gives LSU 4 million dollars then I would say deal.... cause that's what LSU and the local economy will lose by traveling to Florida. All the while this could have been prevented with a little forward thinking by UForfeit....frickin pussies. They didn't want to play and still believe they have a better chance of winning the SEC east without that game...and they're right.
Posted by TheGators
Member since Aug 2015
716 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:12 pm to
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Only the past solutions have been declined


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past solutions


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past


Saturday, Sunday, and Monday are gone. The fans, the players, the administrations, and the SEC can cry about it all they want but no one's getting those three potential game days back.

I don't know what solutions Florida has offered. I'm not privy to those conversations. Pretty sure no one here is. As a fan, I wouldn't give a shite if we played in BR on the 19th. I've already suggested it. Buy out the cupcakes, LSU doesn't lose a home game (in fact, they get a better one), and LSU travels to the Swamp in '17 and '18. Florida won't go for it because of the revenue they lose by rescheduling the game outside of Gainesville but realistically, they'd just double the 2017 revenue by having an extra home game then.
Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:13 pm to
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November 19th here we come. If lsu refuses they should forfeit and be kicked out the SEC.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:16 pm to
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All of the options presented (or demanded) by LSU were within 48 hours of what was expected to be a catastrophic event.

Damn, you don't even know what we're talking about.
First, LSU demanded nothing, but made several offers for where to play, when to play as well as logistics for travel. There were no demands. Second, the discussions were taking place between 3-4 days out from the expected landfall. It was at 48 hours that UF allowed the SEC to cancel it. Meanwhile everyone else (all other college football teams) had made their arrangements and contingencies.
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Florida AD quite reasonably said this is not the weekend to play a game in Florida.

Well, he was wrong. And if he had agreed to Monday night, he would've seen it was doable before the deadline to cancel the Monday date.
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Now they are simply asking LSU to show some flexibility in rescheduling.

Are they? They seem to be asking for one single date - on which LSU already has a home game scheduled. LSU offered up multiple dates, NONE of which were acceptable to UF. UF has offered up ONE date which is not acceptable to LSU.

UF refuses multiple dates, reasonable.

LSU refuses one single date which they already have a home game scheduled - unreasonable.
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At this point, LSU is the unreasonable party

Too late.

So the game won't get played. If you have a problem with that, maybe you can get YOUR university to make concessions to have the game played, god knows LSU has, and Florida really hasn't.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:18 pm to
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You know as well as I do what was meant. The contention was that UF wanted to reschedule because they didn't have a QB.

Why didn't UF agree to schedule the game on Monday, and that way buy some more time to see what the effects of the storm would be?

Why was UF so adamant about Saturday or not this weekend?
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1826 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:18 pm to
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I don't know what solutions Florida has offered. I'm not privy to those conversations. Pretty sure no one here is. As a fan, I wouldn't give a shite if we played in BR on the 19th. I've already suggested it. Buy out the cupcakes, LSU doesn't lose a home game (in fact, they get a better one), and LSU travels to the Swamp in '17 and '18


I'd be OK with this.

Again. I believe buried in your response is a lot of the angst. There has never been a solution floated out there by Florida, not one, when, as the host team it was their job to do so. There has only been media speculation with "sources".
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41525 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:19 pm to
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So the game won't get played. If you have a problem with that, maybe you can get YOUR university to make concessions to have the game played, god knows LSU has, and Florida really hasn't.


Let me ask you a question? Suppose LSU gets their way and the game is not played. How do you think LSU's win percentage should be viewed in the context of the SEC West standings relative to Bama, AU, Aggie, and OM? Given that you have refused to play you rival from the East?
Posted by LSUFrosty
Member since Jan 2012
1861 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:19 pm to
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LSU travels to the Swamp in '17 and '18. 

Are you serious Clark? We already have a home game that weekend. We'd definitely make more money if it's an impromptu game with UF instead of USA, but enough to give up a planned home game next year? Not just no but HELL NO. If Alleva agrees to that, he'd be kicked out of the state.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65254 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:21 pm to
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Florida won't go for it


its their only chance
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16902 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:22 pm to
Fair questions, and I've put my thoughts out on another thread. You have made it clear you don't consider those thoughts valid reasons for postponing.

Still doesn't make the contention that the poster made a fact.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:22 pm to
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That is what UF was saying on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and that answer wasn't good enough.

It wasn't good enough for Saturday. It was fine for Monday night. All the SEC needed to know was when was UF going to agree to reschedule the game. If UF had said, "We're going to tentatively re-schedule for Monday night," the SEC would've demanded an answer by Saturday morning on whether or not the game would be played Monday night. They didn't need to know Thursday morning if the game would be played Monday.

By Saturday morning, I think it was clear that a game could be played in Gainesville Monday night with no problem.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
65254 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:23 pm to
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Let me ask you a question? Suppose LSU gets their way and the game is not played. How do you think LSU's win percentage should be viewed in the context of the SEC West standings relative to Bama, AU, Aggie, and OM? Given that you have refused to play you rival from the East?




it is what it is.

6-1 will be better than a 6-2 bama.

thats all your worried about.

blame foley
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:25 pm to
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uggh I think not...Joe Alleva has this to consider regarding Nov 19th...BR was recent victim to a devastating and business hurting 1000 year flood....last home game for seniors that night....economic impact of home game in community for food, lodging and events is at least 6.5 million, not counting LSU portion of gate and concession....financial commitment to South Alabama who also wants to play ball. There is NO REASON TO BEND ON THIS....Where are your loyalties?



I think you mean what are your priorities.

Is LSU more worried about being the hunt for the SECCG or are they worried about their rent a win revenue.


Ultimately, When/If LSU loses another game, all this bitching will have been for nothing and life will go on.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41525 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:26 pm to
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it is what it is.


I think LSU should be penalized relative to win percentage because they refused to reschedule this game.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:27 pm to
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Saturday, Sunday, and Monday are gone.

Jesus, if we wait long enough, 11/19 will be gone to, then will you hold LSU blameless?
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I don't know what solutions Florida has offered.

Sure you do, they said it over and over and over:

"The game will be played Saturday in Gainesville."

That's all they offered up.

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As a fan, I wouldn't give a shite if we played in BR on the 19th.

I believe Alleva has even offered that up in a sideways kind of way.
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Florida won't go for it because of the revenue they lose by rescheduling the game outside of Gainesville

And that's why LSU won't give up their home game on 11/19. The best solutions were being offered up prior to the weekend, when everyone else was making their contingency plans, but Florida took them all off the table.

If Florida wanted this game to actually take place, they have a real strange way of showing it.
Posted by BoudreauxinGA
Member since Aug 2007
946 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 3:27 pm to
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A hurricane is an Act of GOD. When the decision was made it was just to unpredictable and volatile a situation so erred on the side of caution. Maybe the game could have been played on say Monday but as the article pointed out there a lot more contingencies that needed to be factored in.

Now here is the bottom line: None of this shite matters anymore....but y'all need to play this game. Here is what should happen:

The conference should pay off USA and Presby.

LSU should get the $3MM to make them whole financially

LSU travels to UF on the 19th.

The LSU-Aggie game should be moved back two days to Saturday to give LSU some relief on the travel.

Should LSU refuse to cooperate, LSU will be charged with a forfeit and everything that implies.


When your bitch arse becomes Commish, you can dictate this...until then, STTDB
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