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re: SEC coaches say Texas A&M and Missouri additions have been a success

Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
4022 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:02 pm to
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It does require a bit of rationalization by average SEC fan.

There's no doubt that both came into the league looking to prove a point. The media made it a plot line that "these Big-12 pussies are gonna come in and get their arse whooped." Certainly, that provided a spark. They have proven it.

But to be fair, especially in the case of A&M, I don't give a damn what conference you put them in Manziel is simply unstoppable.

Mizzou was always a solid program and they've beaten Vandy and a Georgia team that Tennessee in all honestly had beaten and fumbled it away. The next two weeks will define Mizzou's season. They're sitting pretty right now though.

But, to everybody outside the SEC it just proves how overrated the conference is.


Of the 2 teams, A&M definitely has a richer history, but they still have only 1 BCS bowl appearance (a loss to tOSU in the '98 Sugar Bowl). Missouri has no BCS appearances. Not saying that's bad because there are a lot of solid programs out there that don't make it to a BCS game, but if you say they were 2 of the Big 12's best you are way off base. I would compare them to Illinois and Northwestern. They may have a good year or 2 but can't maintain it long-term.

Agreed that Manziel is a stud and would excel in any conference. However, I do think SEC defenses are struggling this year and A&M's D is Swiss cheese. Mizzou has a good coach though and we will see how resilient they are with young Mauk at QB.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:10 pm to
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you beat a depleted Georgia team and got the big head.


Well I'll be damned, when Mizzou was "depleted" last year nobody wanted to talk about that. Mizzou sucked, didn't have SEC dept, etc. Where was UGA's SEC Dept??? Strange how that works.
Posted by AginAL
Member since Dec 2010
1378 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:35 pm to
To Mizzou and Texas A&M..

Congrats on a great year so far in FB Tigers. Hopefully both (especially us relatively) will have better BBall seasons upcoming ..
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:40 pm to
frick both aggy and mizlou. i wish we would not have expanded.
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4360 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:57 pm to
^^^^^^

Gramps composed that on his Commodore computer.

Make sure you stay out of his yard.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
16004 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 9:58 pm to
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What were they supposed to say?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:11 pm to
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Other than Missouri in 2007 and A&M 1998 they have both been non-factors.


Missouri won the North in 2007 and 2008 and tied for the North in 2010.

A&M won the South in 1997 and 1998 and tied for the South in 2010.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:14 pm to
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I would compare them to Illinois and Northwestern. They may have a good year or 2 but can't maintain it long-term.


A&M has more BCS bowl game appearances than Michigan State, Indiana, Minnesota, and Purdue combined.
Posted by King
Deep in the backwoods
Member since Sep 2008
18675 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
4971 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:18 pm to
Speaking of additions what are A&M and Mizzou going to look like in the other main sports this year( BasketBall, Baseball)?

I do remember A&M sucking a BBC last year.
Posted by Texas Tea
Ags against the World
Member since Aug 2013
2242 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:23 pm to
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company men.

Posted by Texas Tea
Ags against the World
Member since Aug 2013
2242 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:24 pm to
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frick both aggy and mizlou. i wish we would not have expanded.




You're just mad now that you've realized we're not stuck in here with you. You're stuck in here with us.
Posted by Aggie Dynasty
USA
Member since Jul 2013
2112 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:36 pm to
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frick both aggy and mizlou. i wish we would not have expanded.


lsu scared
A&M is the hammer lsu the nail
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:37 pm to
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Of the 2 teams, A&M definitely has a richer history, but they still have only 1 BCS bowl appearance (a loss to tOSU in the '98 Sugar Bowl). Missouri has no BCS appearances. Not saying that's bad because there are a lot of solid programs out there that don't make it to a BCS game, but if you say they were 2 of the Big 12's best you are way off base. I would compare them to Illinois and Northwestern. They may have a good year or 2 but can't maintain it long-term.


You're a moron.
Posted by Bogie00
Tiger in Kansas
Member since Apr 2012
5793 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:48 pm to
[quote] Mizzou fan
Fact is since we joined the SEC we have three more wins than y'all do.

[quote] Auburn fan
that's kind of sad for Mizzou considering that was probably Auburn's worst season in 60 years. /quote]

Lame, lame, lame! If Mizzou was not SEC ready, what was Auburn's excuse?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79157 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:24 pm to
A&M is a good addition- well see if they stay at this level. Texas running their program like morons helps

Missouri is about to get their Icarus on real soon IMHO
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
22773 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 4:47 am to
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But, to everybody outside the SEC it just proves how overrated the conference is.


Disagree. It proves the SEC is a platform with which a program can elevate itself.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:20 am to
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Disagree. It proves the SEC is a platform with which a program can elevate itself.


This.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
4022 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:22 am to
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You're a moron.


Thanks for the in-depth rebuttal.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
4022 posts
Posted on 10/17/13 at 6:40 am to
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Disagree. It proves the SEC is a platform with which a program can elevate itself.


That may be true over the course of time but this does not happen overnight. One exception is having a player like Manziel who is certainly a game changer.

I'm sure no A&M or Mizzou fan ever expected to be doing this well this soon in the SEC. As a comparison, TCU and WVU are struggling out of the gate in the Big 12 even without A&M and Mizzou in the mix. From a depth perspective it just looks like the Big 12 has more quality teams top to bottom.
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