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re: SEC Coaches on the Hot Seat
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:20 am to jfootball14
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:20 am to jfootball14
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What a view.
One never tires of the monolithic Stalinist architecture on your campus.
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Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:22 am to Vecchio Cane
Guess I took this thread on the MSU board too literally.
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I'm off the Moorhead bandwagon. - Austin Dawg
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We won't make a bowl next year so I will enjoy our last one for a while in Memphis this year. - The Winner
quote:Granted, that's just a sampling. But it will be interesting to see how a 6-6 season would affect his long-term prospects in StarkVegas.
When we lost to UK I was over Moorhead and then when we shot the bed against Florida I wanted to fire him.
I just wish people would quit making excuses and just accept the fact that this is most likely a bust hire - Jma313
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 10:23 am
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:29 am to Farmer1906
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He posted a view from his office today.
...except his didn't have all the nekkid men photoshopped out of it.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:30 am to Farmer1906
quote:You're still happy about the Bjork hire?
frick Ross Bjork forever
He posted a view from his office today.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 10:39 am to logjamming
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Until Ole Miss is out from Under the NCAA dog house, there’s no reason to replace Luke.
You do know that's all over with, right?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:02 am to Kilgore Trout
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Morris is safe. No one fires a second-year HC unless the guy is calling hookers. Arkansas hired Morris to rebuild the Texas HS connections Bielema dismantled. They'll give him at least a few years to accomplish that.
If more opposing coaches are able to predict AU's offense based on the formation, Malzahn's goose is cooked, but only if AU is willing to fork over the buyout.
Too many Ole Miss fans here underestimate the power of the Old Boy Network. In Mississippi it's not what you can do but who you know that counts. Luke would have to have a disastrous, scandal-ridden season to get the axe in year 3. By year 4 the honeymoon will definitely be over.
Quoted for truth.
The bloom is off the rose of Chad Morris at Arkansas I can't deny. You don't post the worst season in school history and have people genuflecting to you. That having been said most everyone, especially the powers that be, realized this was going to be a major rebuild... hell, a burn the building to the ground and start all over build. He gets more time.
I think Luke could be gone at the end of this year but it would have to be an all time bad coaching job. What probably happens is that he under performs and starts next year with a set that isn't hot its molten lava. In which case having a former HC or two on the coaching staff just sitting there could do him in.
Gus is an odd position in that it would be a giant kick to the balls for Auburn to fire him with that contract he saddled them with. Yet, at the same time, I think the majority of the Auburn fans are more then willing to see Gus gone.
I've said before that oddly enough, Malzahn is Houston Nutt 2.0. He has a few disappointing seasons, a few bad ones, you are ready to see him go, and then he pulls an SEC championship appearance out of his bag of tricks. So, the AD and fans grit their teeth and keep him around.
Sooner or later what happened to Nutt at Arkansas is going to happen to Malzahn in that the relationship will become too toxic to keep him there.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:11 am to FearlessFreep
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Guess I took this thread on the MSU board a little too literally
Granted, that's just a sampling. But it will be interesting to see how a 6-6 season would affect his long-term prospects in StarkVegas.
Yeah that was just blowing off steam I think. Lots of sore assholes over losing to UK and FL. No one at State will fire a coach for an 8 win season. And definitely not before his 4th year I finished.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 11:21 am to Landmass
Matt Luke was put into a losing situation
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:22 pm to Don Johnson
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Luke or Malzahn could absolutely be fired this yea
Didn't Gus just sign a huge extension?
Luke was never going to succeed. He was put in charge to keep mass transfers from happening and setting the program back even further. If he can win 5-7 games and leave the roster not totally barren for his replacement then he did what he was supposed to do.
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:25 pm to 0
Unless Ole Miss goes like 2-10 and is completely uncompetitive or he is implicated in a crime ring, there is next to no chance that Luke is fired with an interim AD and interim chancellor.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:29 pm to Arksulli
I know last season was hard for Arky fans.
But I think Morris will rebuild them, however, it is not a quick fix.
The sad truth is, sometimes a team in the SEC can improve a lot but not have the wins to reflect that.
I think with the proper personnel, Morris will have a fun, dynamic offense to watch.
I am not a Gus hater, I want him to succeed, but I am very skeptical. I would think he is probably the coach under the hot seat the most. Everyone talks about the buyout, but it would like be negotiated and paid by boosters in any event.
ESPN would no doubt say firing him is jumping the gun, but that is their standard narrative.
Again, I hope we have a good season so it is a moot point.
But I think Morris will rebuild them, however, it is not a quick fix.
The sad truth is, sometimes a team in the SEC can improve a lot but not have the wins to reflect that.
I think with the proper personnel, Morris will have a fun, dynamic offense to watch.
I am not a Gus hater, I want him to succeed, but I am very skeptical. I would think he is probably the coach under the hot seat the most. Everyone talks about the buyout, but it would like be negotiated and paid by boosters in any event.
ESPN would no doubt say firing him is jumping the gun, but that is their standard narrative.
Again, I hope we have a good season so it is a moot point.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 12:43 pm to Kilgore Trout
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Arkansas hired Morris to rebuild the Texas HS connections Bielema dismantled.
Pretty sure he's already signed/have committed more Texas players than Bielema had in his entire tenure. Interested to see if it pays off for him down the line.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:20 pm to Landmass
I'd take Morris off and add boom and stoops.
Luke is most likely to get the axe.
Luke is most likely to get the axe.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:23 pm to broadcaster
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Matt Luke was put into a losing situation
You could say that about anyone who has taken the Ole Miss job the past 50 years.
This post was edited on 7/8/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 7/8/19 at 1:24 pm to higgs_boson
quote:This.
I am not a Gus hater, I want him to succeed, but I am very skeptical. I would think he is probably the coach under the hot seat the most. Everyone talks about the buyout, but it would like be negotiated and paid by boosters in any event.
ESPN would no doubt say firing him is jumping the gun, but that is their standard narrative.
Again, I hope we have a good season so it is a moot point.
Gustav's meltdown against LSU in '17 and the back-to-back losses against MSU and UTee have pretty much trashed my confidence that he can compete at the highest level in the SEC, regardless of what his ridiculous contract may indicate.
That said, I want him to prove me wrong, and he appears to have the tools to put together a solid team this year. It's a shame the schedule is not set up for a highly successful season.
I'm sure Moorhead isn't really on the hotseat, and probably won't be no matter how poorly his team fares this season. However, it should be noted that, unless his recent contract extension changed the terms, it will cost his university some $26 million less to get rid of him at the end of the 2019 than it will for AU to fire Malzahn.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 2:58 pm to Landmass
I'd say Gus Malzahn. His protector is now gone and he's left, basically, on his own. Just having a winning season won't save him.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:16 pm to Farmer1906
The aggy athletics director's office is in y'all's basketball arena?
Has he already pissed off Jimbo?
Has he already pissed off Jimbo?
Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:21 pm to FearlessFreep
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Gustav's meltdown against LSU in '17 and the back-to-back losses against MSU and UTee have pretty much trashed my confidence that he can compete at the highest level in the SEC, regardless of what his ridiculous contract may indicate.
Right. Its why I said I thought the relationship between Gus and the fans might (or has already) become too toxic for him to stay there. Its not that the fans don't want him to succeed, its that they are starting to lose faith he will.
This is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a bad Auburn team this year. The schedule doesn't exactly roll out favorably for them though. A good Auburn team could have a fairly blah record and if you have one loss to a meh team like Arkansas or Ole Miss...
It is looking more and more like what happened at the end of Nutt's run at Arkansas. Nutt went 18-8 his final two seasons and won the West the year before he left. At a certain point the fans lose faith that a given coach can get it done even if he recently had a pretty good amount of success.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:23 pm to Landmass
Morris isnt on the hot seat yet. Another 2-10 season it will be on fire next year though.
Posted on 7/8/19 at 3:50 pm to Muleriderhog
I think Gus will be fine this year. If he gets 7 or 8 wins, it will just be chalked up to the tough schedule and a new QB. Only if he is at 5 or 6 wins would be possibly be in trouble.
I'm not saying this is what the situation should be, but what I think it likely is.
I'm not saying this is what the situation should be, but what I think it likely is.
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