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re: SEC Coach of the Year as of Oct 23
Posted on 10/23/13 at 2:45 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Posted on 10/23/13 at 2:45 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Malzahn. That Auburn team last season was an absolute shitshow considering the talent they have.
Saban wouldn't be a bad choice if they run the table again.
Saban wouldn't be a bad choice if they run the table again.
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Posted on 10/23/13 at 2:52 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Bielema...he coached his teams to 3 Rose Bowls...he should be coach of the year, every year...
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:00 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Pinkel. They haven't lost and are light years ahead of expectations.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:01 pm to Jobu93
Definitely Pinkel.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:05 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Malzahn. That Auburn team last season was an absolute shitshow considering the talent they have.
Interesting. Auburn largely has the same players, and they were a shitshow last year.
Everyone is seeing a Mizzou squad that ISN'T decimated by injuries.
So you have one coach getting the most out of his players and the other coach finally able to use his effectively.
I still lean to Pinkel because they haven't lost.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:08 pm to Jobu93
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Interesting. Auburn largely has the same players, and they were a shitshow last year.
It speaks to the coaching IMO. Not saying Pinkel can't coach, just Malzahn has had coach his arse off to overcome the losing mentality. That and moving Kiehl Frazier the hell away from under center.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:09 pm to BluegrassBelle
Using past SEC logic it has to be Spurrior.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:11 pm to BluegrassBelle
Recruiting is part of it, but could Malzahn be undefeated with the caliber player Pinkel has recruited with Mizzou's schedule? Malzahn is working with much better talent, according to recruiting rankings. Obviously Pinkel is great at spotting and developing talent.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:15 pm to toptiger74
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Okay you could replace Pinkel with Malzhan and it would make just as much sense.
yeah, but the change was Pinkel's own doing... that's gotta be a knock against him.
with that said, as of right now i'd say Pinkel... may change with how the rest of the season plays out.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:16 pm to Beer Bryant
Auburn has out recruited Mizzou. Pinkel has been doing more with less.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:17 pm to ThaKaptin
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Saban
For keeping the level so high and complacency so low
Much more difficult than improvement IMO
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:17 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Pinkel.
Gus is doing a great job, but Auburn is a team loaded with talented players. Chizik completely lost control of the team last year and they played way below their talent level, but there are a lot of 3 and 4 star players on that team.
I don't know anything about MO, but they can't have the quality of recruits the last 2 or 3 years that the barn has had. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't follow recruiting that much, I just never hear anything about how great MOs class is.
Seems to me Gus is just getting his kids to play at their talent level, while Pinkel must have his team playing above theirs.
Gus is doing a great job, but Auburn is a team loaded with talented players. Chizik completely lost control of the team last year and they played way below their talent level, but there are a lot of 3 and 4 star players on that team.
I don't know anything about MO, but they can't have the quality of recruits the last 2 or 3 years that the barn has had. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't follow recruiting that much, I just never hear anything about how great MOs class is.
Seems to me Gus is just getting his kids to play at their talent level, while Pinkel must have his team playing above theirs.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:21 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Pinkel
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:22 pm to Beer Bryant
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Recruiting is part of it, but could Malzahn be undefeated with the caliber player Pinkel has recruited with Mizzou's schedule? Malzahn is working with much better talent, according to recruiting rankings. Obviously Pinkel is great at spotting and developing talent.
Gus is working with the most undisciplined team I had ever seen in my life
All the recruits were there but their talent was not shown
Gus came into a complete shitstorm and is doing this
Pinkel just got hurt players better in the worst SEC East I've seen
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:22 pm to Alabiker
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Gus is doing a great job, but Auburn is a team loaded with talented players. Chizik completely lost control of the team last year and they played way below their talent level, but there are a lot of 3 and 4 star players on that team.
I don't know anything about MO, but they can't have the quality of recruits the last 2 or 3 years that the barn has had. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't follow recruiting that much, I just never hear anything about how great MOs class is.
Seems to me Gus is just getting his kids to play at their talent level, while Pinkel must have his team playing above theirs.
Wouldnt you say its pinkels fault they do not have the talented players from the get go? after all they are his recruits
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:23 pm to Alabiker
Per Rivals, recruiting rankings:
2013: AU 8th, MU 41st
2012: AU 10th, MU 31st
2011: AU 7th, MU 48th
2010: AU 4th, MU 21st
2009: AU 19th, MU 40th
2013: AU 8th, MU 41st
2012: AU 10th, MU 31st
2011: AU 7th, MU 48th
2010: AU 4th, MU 21st
2009: AU 19th, MU 40th
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:27 pm to Alabiker
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but Auburn is a team loaded with talented players
Not really.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:27 pm to NYCAuburn
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Wouldnt you say its pinkels fault they do not have the talented players from the get go? after all they are his recruits
Posted on 10/23/13 at 3:55 pm to kilo
Pinkel
Graduation success rates in the top 10%
A perfect (up to now) season
Overall winning history
Success at managing the shift to SEC
He is on track to pass Don Faurot as the winningest coach in Mizzou history -- an honor he will earn when the Tigers knock A&M on their butts.
Graduation success rates in the top 10%
A perfect (up to now) season
Overall winning history
Success at managing the shift to SEC
He is on track to pass Don Faurot as the winningest coach in Mizzou history -- an honor he will earn when the Tigers knock A&M on their butts.
Posted on 10/23/13 at 4:04 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
On Oct. 23 I'd vote for Pinkel.
If Auburn wins the Iron Bowl, though? No question who wins.
Either way, they've both done a helluva job.
If Auburn wins the Iron Bowl, though? No question who wins.
Either way, they've both done a helluva job.
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