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SEC alters overtime rules to avoid another 7-OT game like A&M-LSU marathon
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:57 am
Posted on 7/16/19 at 11:57 am
USA Today
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HOOVER, Ala. — Following last season's seven-overtime game between Texas A&M and LSU, the Southeastern Conference has put in place new overtime rules meant to reduce the likelihood of any extended games.
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The new SEC rule has to do with overtime scoring and requires each to employ a two-point try beginning with the fifth overtime period. The rule also allows for a mandatory 2-minute break period in the absence of a media timeout after the second and fourth overtime periods.
The A&M-LSU marathon game last season accounted for the most combined points (146) in NCAA history and tied for the longest game in Division I history. It also featured 255 total plays between the two teams and lasted nearly 5 hours (4:53) in time elapsed.
"That's a lot of plays. And think of the student-athletes on the field for that time, we needed to take a look at some point we have to get the players off the field," SEC coordinator of officials Steve Shaw said Tuesday on the second day of SEC Media Days from the Hyatt Regency Birmingham-Wynfrey Hotel. "However, nobody wants a tie, that's No. 1, and No. 2, our overtime procedure is really good. In fact, a lot of people think it's probably better than maybe the NFL, better than the high school rule."
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Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:00 pm to AUFan2015
The SEC can just change OT rules for SEC games? That doesn't require NCAA ruling? Would be odd to have a different OT than the rest of college football. Am I misunderstanding?
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:04 pm to AUFan2015
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The new SEC rule has to do with overtime scoring and requires each to employ a two-point try beginning with the fifth overtime period.
I thought the rule already was that you had to start going for two beginning with the third overtime period?
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:12 pm to TeddyWestside
These are the current OT rules according to the NCAA. LINK
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If a game is tied at the conclusion of four quarters, it goes to overtime.
The officials will invite each team's captains (no more than four per team) to the 50-yard line for the overtime coin toss. The designated field captain for the visiting team will call heads or tails. The winning team of the coin toss can either decide to play offense or defense, or which end of the field will be used for both possessions of that overtime period. The decision cannot be deferred.
The team that loses the coin toss will execise the remaining option (e.g. If the winning team decides to play offense/defense, the losing team will decide which end of the field will be used, and vice versa). The losing team will also have the first choice of the two options for subsequent even-numbered overtime periods, while the team that wins the coin toss will get the first choice for subsequent odd-numbered overtime periods.
Each overtime period consists of a two-possession series with each team getting one possession on offense and one on defense. The team on offense will always start at the designated 25-yard line (unless relocated by a penalty). The team on offense can choose to start its possession with the football anywhere on or between the hash marks.
Each team will receive one timeout for every overtime period. Timeouts not used during regulation cannot be used during overtime and an unused timeout allotted for one overtime period cannot be carried over to another overtime period. Timeouts used between overtime periods will be charged to the succeeding period.
Each team retains the ball until it scores or fails to make a first down.
The team that scores the most points during regulation and overtime wins the game. If the game is still tied after an overtime period, there will be another overtime period.
Beginning with the third overtime period, teams that score a touchdown must attempt a two-point conversion.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:14 pm to AUFan2015
Or they could just, yunno, ensure that the refs are somewhat competent and avoid such boondoggles in the future.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:17 pm to AUFan2015
They should have FG attempts from 45 yards after 3 OTs
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:18 pm to AUFan2015
Best way to avoid lengthy OT is no extra points in overtime.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:21 pm to AUFan2015
A tie is better than a 2 point conversion determining the outcome of a game
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:22 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
The way I understood the new rule after so many OT's (Five?) you just line up and go for 2 points without the preceding 3 plays? You just line up for the 2 point play then the opposing team lines up for the 2 point play until the game is decided?
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:30 pm to AUFan2015
So football version on penalty shots, got it.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:34 pm to AUFan2015
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SEC alters
Thought this thread was gonna be about that Metry Mauler dude.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:35 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
Or, you know, your kicker should actually make his field goals in regulation to avoid overtime entirely.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:42 pm to AUFan2015
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"That's a lot of plays. And think of the student-athletes on the field for that time, we needed to take a look at some point we have to get the players off the field," SEC coordinator of officials Steve Shaw said Tuesday on the second day of SEC Media Days from the Hyatt Regency Birmingham-Wynfrey Hotel. "However, nobody wants a tie, that's No. 1, and No. 2, our overtime procedure is really good. In fact, a lot of people think it's probably better than maybe the NFL, better than the high school rule."
Thats not going to do anything to stop Jimbo Fishers nephew from coming on the field and giving Kevin Faulk the ole 3 piece and a soda. That was the person in the most danger during that game.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:45 pm to AUFan2015
Feels like an overcorrection. How many times have conference games gone to 5OT?
I know since 96, only five games have gone to 7 OT at all across the entire NCAA.
NVM... found it...
Longest games
This list includes every game in FBS history that went to five or more overtimes, sorted by date.
Date OTs Home team Visiting team Score Attendance
November 3, 2001 7 Ole Miss Arkansas 58–56 47,464[3]
October 5, 2002 6 #10 Tennessee Arkansas 41–38 105,688[4]
October 25, 2003 5 Alabama #22 Tennessee 51–43 83,818[5]
November 1, 2003 7 Kentucky Arkansas 71–63 66,124[6]
October 8, 2005 5 Western Michigan Ball State 60–57 18,183[7]
October 7, 2006 7 North Texas FIU 25–22 15,123[8]
September 14, 2013 5 Buffalo Stony Brook (FCS) 26–23 24,013[9]
October 22, 2016 5 UTSA UTEP 52–49 23,633[10]
October 7, 2017 7 Buffalo Western Michigan 71–68 17,048[11]
September 29, 2018 5 San Jose State Hawaii 44-41 16,363[12]
November 24, 2018 7 #22 Texas A&M #8 LSU 74-72 101,501[13]
Soooo... 5 games ever in SEC history that would have even been impacted, and the first in 15 years, but we need to modify the rules for it.
I know since 96, only five games have gone to 7 OT at all across the entire NCAA.
NVM... found it...
Longest games
This list includes every game in FBS history that went to five or more overtimes, sorted by date.
Date OTs Home team Visiting team Score Attendance
November 3, 2001 7 Ole Miss Arkansas 58–56 47,464[3]
October 5, 2002 6 #10 Tennessee Arkansas 41–38 105,688[4]
October 25, 2003 5 Alabama #22 Tennessee 51–43 83,818[5]
November 1, 2003 7 Kentucky Arkansas 71–63 66,124[6]
October 8, 2005 5 Western Michigan Ball State 60–57 18,183[7]
October 7, 2006 7 North Texas FIU 25–22 15,123[8]
September 14, 2013 5 Buffalo Stony Brook (FCS) 26–23 24,013[9]
October 22, 2016 5 UTSA UTEP 52–49 23,633[10]
October 7, 2017 7 Buffalo Western Michigan 71–68 17,048[11]
September 29, 2018 5 San Jose State Hawaii 44-41 16,363[12]
November 24, 2018 7 #22 Texas A&M #8 LSU 74-72 101,501[13]
Soooo... 5 games ever in SEC history that would have even been impacted, and the first in 15 years, but we need to modify the rules for it.
This post was edited on 7/16/19 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 7/16/19 at 12:56 pm to AUFan2015
The NCAA rules committee changed this, not the SEC. I think it's a good rule, but after the the 1st OT, I would then go for the 2-pts, then beginning with the 3rd OT, just run the 2-pt conversion play.
The change is better, but still it's too long.
The change is better, but still it's too long.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:01 pm to AUFan2015
This is a dumb rule change. They should just get rid of field goals in overtime, must score a TD.
On the other hand, that would help Saban out, so they should go all field goals in regulation and overtime. No touchdowns
On the other hand, that would help Saban out, so they should go all field goals in regulation and overtime. No touchdowns
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:14 pm to gladchiefisgone
quote:This is accurate, except it starts with the 5th OT. The first 2 OTs are from the 25-yard line with the team able to kick an extra point or go for a 2-point conversion after a TD. The next 2 OTs (3OT and 4OT) are the same except that a TD must be followed by a 2-point conversion attempt. From 5OT onward, each team will simply attempt one play from the 2-point conversion line until one team scores, and the other does not.
The way I understood the new rule after so many OT's (Five?) you just line up and go for 2 points without the preceding 3 plays? You just line up for the 2 point play then the opposing team lines up for the 2 point play until the game is decided?
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:23 pm to AUFan2015
Does the NCAA require it after the second overtime...now I'm confused as shite
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:31 pm to AUFan2015
Arkansas has had some epic 7OT games in the past, but those games are excessive. I'd be cool doing the first 2 OT's like normal, then just 2pt conversations from 3OT and on.
Posted on 7/16/19 at 1:32 pm to fibonaccisquared
So, were there lots of injuries piling up in those games?
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