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re: SEC All Decade Team

Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:18 am to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:18 am to
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Jamal Adams laid the wood quite a few times himself. Not many players could match his physicality, so to say that Barron is much more physical feels a little misleading.


Well, Barron not only matched his physicality in college, he well surpassed it. Anyone who watched the two players play knows this. Barron is built like a linebacker. Which is probably why he struggled in the pros in coverage and had to move to a hybrid LB/S position.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:18 am to
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Cam had NOTHING. Offense or Defense.



Come on. That AU defense was sick.

Nick Fairly took over games defensively just like Cam did on offense.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:18 am to
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In the history of the NFL, only two quarterbacks have ever strung together three or more consecutive seasons with 4,500+ passing yards, 25+ touchdown passes, while maintaining a completion percentage above 66.0. One is Peyton, the other is Matt.


That's a lot of words to say none.
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Again, these stats say he is the best.


No they don't. It's just some arbitrary timeframe you came up with to try to make this ridiculous argument.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5712 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:19 am to
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That would be the most foolish argument one can make



It's actually true. QB rushing yards open up the passing game by tying up defenders and putting them in conflict, and they open up runs for the other backs.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
41278 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:19 am to
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Why do you not want the QB who gains more yards, scored more tds, throws for a better pct, and with a higher efficiency


Now look at defense in the league this year vs 2010.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48916 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:20 am to
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Well, Barron not only matched his physicality in college, he well surpassed it. Anyone who watched the two players play knows this. Barron is built like a linebacker. Which is probably why he struggled in the pros in coverage and had to move to a hybrid LB/S position.


Lots of remarkable safeties listed, but no way Matt Elam is not on this team.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
41278 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:21 am to
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It's just some arbitrary timeframe


wut. Its literally exactly what youre doing. Sharing stats.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:23 am to
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wut. Its literally exactly what youre doing.


Single season is an arbitrary timeframe?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
109924 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:23 am to
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Now look at defense in the league this year vs 2010.


Joe faced the #4, #10, #17, and #19 defense so far

Cams top were #3, #11(bowl game), #12, and #21
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 10:26 am
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:24 am to
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Stats dont always matter

I'm sorry but a damn near 79% comp rate while throwing for 5000 yards is about as perfect as possible.

Y'all realize he's about to set the National comp % record by 6 points

SIX PERCENTAGE POINTS...ALL OF NCAA...ALL TIME RECORD
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
41278 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:26 am to
Yardage and pts allowed now.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
41278 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:26 am to
So his season last year isnt taken into consideration for this all decade team?
Posted by FlyDownTheField
Member since Dec 2013
3154 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:26 am to
Cam's value wasn't just in the on paper yards and tds he gained. Just him being on the field let every other player on offense produce more outside or him. The way defenses had to focus in him allowed Dyer a Freshman RB to run for over 1000 yards in the SEC. It also allowed Onterio McCaleb to run for another 800.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
88744 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:30 am to
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Yardage and pts allowed now.



Looking only at stats of SEC teams:

2010 average offense 399.1 average defense 350.9
2019 average offense 407.6 average defense 353.9

2010 ppg for 30.9 ppg against 23.8
2019 ppg for 29.6 ppg against 21.9

So yea, that argument doesn't hold water. The yardage differences are negligible, and the 2010 teams actually scored more and allowed less points on average.
This post was edited on 12/13/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12214 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:30 am to
Cam is easily the QB for this team and it's not even close.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:31 am to
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Just him being on the field let every other player on offense produce more outside or him.


Nope, can't say that about Burrow.
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The way defenses had to focus in him allowed Dyer a Freshman RB to run for over 1000 yards in the SEC. It also allowed Onterio McCaleb to run for another 800.



CEH was supposed to get passed up by two freshman. I'd say he was able to elevate his game thanks to Joe juts a bit.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48916 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:31 am to
You guys are arguing over 2 of the greatest QB's ever to play in the SEC. It is going to take about a case of beer before you call it a draw. Which was greater? It's hard to tell. They were both in systems that maximized their individual talents. Switch places and neither would be as good.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
41278 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:32 am to
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Switch places and neither would be as good.


Cam would still dominate and everyone who has ever watched sec football knows that.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
109924 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:32 am to
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Yardage and pts allowed now.


Joes top defenses faced by Yards per play


4.34
4.68
4.80
4.80


Cams top defenses from earlier Yards per play

4.6
4.7
4.9
5.3


This isnt going how you though it would, is it?

Pts per game for joe

12.5
14.4
18.6
18.8

Pts per game for Cam

13.5
18.2
18.7
19.8
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41517 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:32 am to
You left Hunter Henry off at TE.
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