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re: sCar/Ark fans, tell me about your move to the SEC in the early 90's

Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:17 am to
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
2491 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:17 am to
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Yet all you Pig People could do was cry about the Texas officials as if none were provided from Arkansas.


Not too good at the maths I see.

Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8699 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:44 am to
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I've spoken to older Gamecock baseball fans and they relish the fact that they have 2 baseball titles and the Tarheels finished runner up back to back years and didn't get over the hump against Oregon State. Had a Gamecock fan in Hoover tell me once that he hated UNC more than he'd ever hate Clemson. That was 2007 so even though they'd been in the conference for 15 years the scars were still there.


my dad was a 69' grad from Carolina. I was raised to hate UNC second behind Clemson...and not far behind. NC STATE and DUKE follow closely as well. Afterall it was Duke that made a big deal out of Mike Grosso and blocked him. They didnt like that we were primed to become the ACC power in basketball
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
7968 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:03 am to
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SC had the stones to tell the ACC to kiss our arse.

The dislike Gamecocks have for the state of North Carolina is palpable. For our older fans it's pure rage.


we have to live with split families in-state in some instances - so it's a different strain of disdain for the orangenecks -

but the old north state .... well ...

Chuck Erickson and Eddie Cameron had their personal war with Big Frank ...which ulimately McGuire won - as did USC with eventual SEC membership -
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Member since Oct 2023
6306 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:06 am to
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Frank Broyles had the foresight and the clout to peak interest from the SEC

Pique.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18051 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 12:14 pm to
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(I'm not giving the year,


quote:

HClassof84


Going to guess ‘82
Posted by linewar
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2021
390 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 1:12 pm to
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I LOVE THIS PIC.

Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 1:18 pm to
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Arkansas accepted in the summer of 90. Basketball started competing 91, football in 92. For the previous 35 years Arkansas was top 10 in winning percentage in football nationally. Arkansas had just been to the final four in basketball the previous season. In baseball had been to 4 college World Series with a runner up in the previous 11 years. This includes 3 trips to the CWS in the previous 6 seasons. Arkansas was winning national championships in track. So Arkansas was a highly respected program in those 4 sports. We were glad to get invited and accepted to the SEC. It was sad to lose some of the rivalries in the SWC, but Frank Broyles had the foresight and the clout to peak interest from the SEC (mainly this would allow for a conference championship game in football which would be a financial windfall for the conference). Most fans also saw the SEC as a much more prestigious conference and we felt honored to be invited.

What I took from all this is that moving to the SEC was the worst thing that ever happened to Arkansas athletics.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25789 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:21 pm to
It was for football but not the rest.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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6306 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:25 pm to
Fair enough.
Posted by Larry Seinfeld
Fayetteville
Member since Nov 2009
256 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:39 pm to
A big problem was Ken Hatfield leaving for Clemson after back to back Cotton Bowl appearances and SWC championships after the 89 season. Jack Crowe’s teams were the worst since the 50s and that coincided with our entrance to the SEC.

The timing of a dip in football while going into a much tougher conference was a bad combination.
Posted by MtVernon
Member since Jul 2024
6959 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 2:40 pm to
This is a pretty civil thread to be on page 5. I'm impressed.
Posted by Mizzouligan
St. Louis, MO
Member since Aug 2014
1630 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 6:34 pm to
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The 4 Tobacco Road schools (UNC, Duke, State and Wake) ran the ACC for their benefit and only their benefit. The SC schools were treated like ugly stepchildren. Our BOT told them to f off and we left. Clemson's BOT chickened out at the last minute and they stayed. Had they left the ACC with us, they'd have gotten our invite.


Wow…I didn’t know that.
Posted by Garl
Member since May 2025
35 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:06 pm to
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It was a "finally we have a home" moment. The best move this university ever made. The exposure and payoff are more than even I could have expected. We took a beating but that was expected.


But was it still expected 30+ years later?
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
4642 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:11 pm to
SCar is lucky that FSU pussied out.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
29244 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:39 pm to
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SCar is lucky that FSU pussied out.


Rather be lucky than good....
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
7968 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:40 pm to
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But was it still expected 30+ years later?
"it was God's plan" ....of course in my Dildo Sweenie voice -

LMAO at ACC lapdog trash -

This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 9:43 pm
Posted by MurphyGator
Member since Jul 2021
1622 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:50 pm to
Did Colorado also leave Big 12 at same time as Nebraska, Missouri, and A&M?
Posted by Garl
Member since May 2025
35 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:20 pm to
That's 3x National Champion ACC lapdog trash to you.
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 11:21 pm
Posted by MurphyGator
Member since Jul 2021
1622 posts
Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:32 pm to
Years ago, I read something written by Jackie Sherrill where he said that after A&M started beating Texas in football once he became the A&M HC that Texas had 80+ private detective types spying on A&M coaches, players, and family members of players and coaches. Texas was trying to catch them doing something wrong so they could be turned in to the NCAA. Similar to what Texas did to SMU that ended with the SMU program getting the death penalty. That's some effed up shite.
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
2891 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 3:07 am to
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Rather be lucky than good....


As soon as that happened Coach Dooley began advocating for South Carolina as a culture and geographic fit for the SEC. We already played SC every year in everything so it wouldn’t disrupt our scheduling at all to have them as a league game. He probably would have advocated for Clemson but they couldn’t pull away from the Tobacco rd tit.
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