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re: Saban: There's no talent difference between best Big 10, SEC teams

Posted on 12/21/10 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by GamecockAlum
SC
Member since Dec 2010
7705 posts
Posted on 12/21/10 at 11:17 pm to
How many games involving at least Big Ten team that were played in a Big Ten team stadium had snow on the field during the game?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72926 posts
Posted on 12/21/10 at 11:20 pm to
Snow fall usually doesn't occur before the end of the Big Ten season. The Big East on the other hand...
Posted by TideTurf
Member since Sep 2009
3551 posts
Posted on 12/21/10 at 11:21 pm to
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Whatever mas'uh says, I beleeb


Saban dont coach at Auburn and..you are not a rented mule!
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
86703 posts
Posted on 12/21/10 at 11:38 pm to
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What was Saban supposed to say? At the time he wasn't going to come to Alabama. He didn't lie when he said he wasn't going to be the coach because at the time he didn't know


You are naive as shite
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22247 posts
Posted on 12/21/10 at 11:40 pm to
What?
Posted by TideTurf
Member since Sep 2009
3551 posts
Posted on 12/21/10 at 11:41 pm to
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32798 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 12:48 am to
didn't the big10, get something like one or two 5* recruits all of last year? I can't remember the #s, but they had a horrible recruiting year as a whole for their conference, and I think most of the top talent from the state of ohio left out of state. there's definitely a talent disparity, although it's slimmer towards the top.
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15181 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 12:49 am to
And you do nothing but bash Alabama and Saban. What's your point?
Posted by pointman
new orleans
Member since Dec 2010
2734 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 6:45 am to
If god says it , it must be true.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73708 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 6:50 am to
by saying MSU and Bama have equal talent, he can take full credit for beating them by 20 since he coached up his equally talented players


If you don't see his genius, you are a fool
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282647 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 7:00 am to
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Sure the SEC would suck in the snow but if those guys from up North played in 100 degree heat with terrible humidity they would blow as well.


Playing in the high heat and humidity is far worse than playing in 40 degree weather. Which is about as cold as it gets in B10 country during the football season.

Top three match up pretty well in each conference. Probably a difference in the middle 4-5. It's not a whole lot though.
Posted by FleshEatingSalsa
Floating down the Anduin
Member since Dec 2009
12312 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 7:19 am to
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Draconian Sanctions

You're almost due to start a "Look at me, I have 10,125 posts" thread. Can't wait.
Posted by smelvis
Member since Nov 2010
2107 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 7:21 am to
Saban sure is a smart feller.

The Big Ten is 85-87-6 against the current SEC all time.

Thru 2009:

9-13-0 v. Alabama
3-7-2 v. Auburn
5-1-0 v. Arkansas (thanks a lot Flagslip)
5-9-0 v. Florida
2-8-0 v. Georgia
25-22-0 v. Kentucky
5-7-1 v. LSU
3-0-0 v. Mississippi
6-2-1 v. Miss St.
6-3-0 v. South Carolina
5-10-0 v. Tennessee
16-7-2 v. Vandy

Which makes 90 - 89 - 6, as pointed out by Bench McElroy below.

And two of the 10 different records I found on the matter.
This post was edited on 12/22/10 at 7:44 am
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34658 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 7:30 am to
Man, all the elite SEC teams (Alabama, LSU, Florida, Georgia, Auburn) have a winning record against the Big 10. And according to you chart, the Big 10 is 90-89 against SEC teams. Is it because some of the wins were accumulated when teams like Arkansas and South Carolina weren't in the SEC yet?
Posted by smelvis
Member since Nov 2010
2107 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 7:36 am to


You can find about 10 different records if you look. All time vs. the SEC since the founding of the conference, all time vs. current members of the SEC (more favorable for the Big Televen, FWIW), all time vs. current members of the SEC AS members of the SEC (which takes out the records of Sewanee, Tulane, and GT, and adds SC and Arky's records, just as members of the SEC though). Also, an important note, some of those records take out Penn State's losses to SEC schools before joining the Big Televen, but count their wins, WTF?



IMO, count games in which teams, as members of the SEC and Big Ten, played one another and that's it. Not SC and Arky prior to 1992, nor Penn State, Nebraska, nor whoever the hell else (is it Missouri) that's going before joining the conference. Count Tech, Tulane, and Sewanee and let them count Transylaniarustyscrewsandalsandsocks as long as they were a member of the Big Ten and SEC. Records after, nulled.

Member v. member, IMO.
This post was edited on 12/22/10 at 7:42 am
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44466 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 7:40 am to
accurate statement and politically correct
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282647 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 7:50 am to
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IMO, count games in which teams, as members of the SEC and Big Ten, played one another and that's it. Not SC and Arky prior to 1992, nor Penn State, Nebraska, nor whoever the hell else (is it Missouri) that's going before joining the conference. Count Tech, Tulane, and Sewanee and let them count Transylaniarustyscrewsandalsandsocks as long as they were a member of the Big Ten and SEC. Records after, nulled.


If you look at head to head bowl games in the BCS era, it's about even. That is about as close a modern comparison as you can get.
Posted by smelvis
Member since Nov 2010
2107 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 7:52 am to
Agreeance.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
24175 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 8:00 am to
That's why I laugh.

This SEC thing really all came from OSU playing like sh*t 2 years in a row.

People forget that the other 2 Big X/SEC games in 06 were won by the Big X. So it isn't like UF was really that much better; they had a great scheme
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282647 posts
Posted on 12/22/10 at 8:22 am to
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So it isn't like UF was really that much better; they had a great scheme


Say what? Now I am one arguing based on head to head bowl games in the BCS era that the B10 is as good as the SEC. However, UF blew the f'kin doors off of OSUe. They absolutely were that much better.
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