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Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:44 pm to p226
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:44 pm to p226
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You’re unhinged. Pay these damn kids - every one of them. They can’t work a job and go to school while playing football.
Alabama athletics as a whole lost $28 million in 2024. Should they bill every athlete equally?
Alabama Athletics Loses $28 Million in 2024
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:44 pm to DyeHardDylan
Stop giving them money.
Until we do, we are complicit in college footballs destruction.
It is literally that simple.
Until we do, we are complicit in college footballs destruction.
It is literally that simple.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:44 pm to p226
You can't be this stupid in real life. You have to be trolling.
The transfer portal allows them to move from school to school (i.e. still playing within the collegiate athletic framework). They have no marketable viability outside of intercollegiate competition.
The transfer portal allows them to move from school to school (i.e. still playing within the collegiate athletic framework). They have no marketable viability outside of intercollegiate competition.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:48 pm to p226
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We’re watching athletes play a game - not wear a jersey that says “University of _____”.
So you are saying you will watch center DJ Chester, after he transfers to Bowling Green, get pushed 3 yards back every snap?
No, you will watch the current LSU center get pushed back every snap.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:53 pm to DyeHardDylan
The only way some of these players leave the south is $$$$$$. NIL is the Big10s way of being able to compete.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:58 pm to UKWildcats
And it eventually destroyed your CBB program AND in the future, can a state like Kentucky even compete with New York/LA etc. on pay day bank for signing. In 25 years UK and KU will be an after thought in CBB. And teas like Bama\/Auburn might be Vanderbilt's in CFB.
I saw this coming in 2019 and stopped watching, but it was two fold, another thing that ruined the NCAA CFB, is the HUNH which was allowed to thrive because dumb refs were ordered to run the ball back to the line of scrim. unlike the NFL, hence the NFL still has a Chess Match like game of offense and defense, in CFB Saban had to start playing BASE DEFENSE on every play. Its a joke. Then the BLM came in 2019/2020 along with paying players, and I knew it would lead to an escalation, but the number 1 reason was the transfer rules, some punk liberal judge, ruled they could transfer, the NCAA is a private entity, and they should have and could have won, the NCAA however is led by libs who wanted to be these men whom they see as BEIG USED. Within about 10-15 years no one will be watching, and it will be PPV. And I will watch the NFL where they at least have a semblance of defense.
I saw this coming in 2019 and stopped watching, but it was two fold, another thing that ruined the NCAA CFB, is the HUNH which was allowed to thrive because dumb refs were ordered to run the ball back to the line of scrim. unlike the NFL, hence the NFL still has a Chess Match like game of offense and defense, in CFB Saban had to start playing BASE DEFENSE on every play. Its a joke. Then the BLM came in 2019/2020 along with paying players, and I knew it would lead to an escalation, but the number 1 reason was the transfer rules, some punk liberal judge, ruled they could transfer, the NCAA is a private entity, and they should have and could have won, the NCAA however is led by libs who wanted to be these men whom they see as BEIG USED. Within about 10-15 years no one will be watching, and it will be PPV. And I will watch the NFL where they at least have a semblance of defense.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:58 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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No, you didn't. You completely avoided the issue.
I don’t think I avoided it at all. Perhaps I flippantly described it in a way that you didn’t quite catch.
That happens on Internet forums sometimes.
I’ll spell it out as best I can for you with imperfect adherence to details - I’m getting old.
Basically, it works like this. The NFL is a federally protected monopoly. Anti-trust exemptions, some federal law giving it unique ability in broadcast right deals with TV channels going back 60 years. Done kinda legalistic bullshite in federal law exempting it from anti-trust … stuff…. from AFL/NFL NERGER deal.
Their federally protected monopoly enables them to extend some protection to college football through the “3 year rule”.
3 year rule says player has to be 3 years out of college to be eligible for NFL.
This gives NFL a free farm system, and ensures that any player that wants to make a living from football waits until they’re 21 to make money at it - since the NFL is the only pro football league in the US.
Does that make sense to you at all?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:59 pm to Dawgfanman
Umm yeah…. Basically the sole reason wiscy sued Miami last year
Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:00 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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They have no marketable viability outside of intercollegiate competition.
Not as long as the NFL has a 3 year rule. They can’t go to the NFL out of high school. Of course they have to play in college.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:03 pm to p226
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Of course they have to play in college.
That's part of the problem. But, you are purposely avoiding the answer. Why is that?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:04 pm to DyeHardDylan
If a college player accepts $1 or more in NIL there should be a mandatory commitment to the institution of four years, unless there is a head coach change, and unless the player is turning pro.
Should the athlete transfer after the acceptance of NIL money before or during the initial institution appearance there will be a mandatory 1 year “sit out” period.
Should the athlete transfer after the acceptance of NIL money before or during the initial institution appearance there will be a mandatory 1 year “sit out” period.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:08 pm to p226
Why does the NFL's rules or system force the colleges to do anything? It's not their responsibility to provide a job to 18-21 yr olds. Why don't the kids sue the NFL?
And why can't the colleges say, "Look, here's the conditions under which you can play football/basketball/field hockey within our framework. If that is unacceptable for you, good luck in your outside endeavors"?
Last I checked, not a single kid over the last 80 years was snatched off the streets and dragooned into the slave labor camps that is intercollegiate competition.
And why can't the colleges say, "Look, here's the conditions under which you can play football/basketball/field hockey within our framework. If that is unacceptable for you, good luck in your outside endeavors"?
Last I checked, not a single kid over the last 80 years was snatched off the streets and dragooned into the slave labor camps that is intercollegiate competition.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:57 pm to p226
Are you watching Walker Howard this year?
CJ Daniels?
Jalen Lee?
Christian Braithwaite?
Ryan Yaites?
You are still following them aren’t you? How are they doing?
I mean, it isn’t about the jersey right?
CJ Daniels?
Jalen Lee?
Christian Braithwaite?
Ryan Yaites?
You are still following them aren’t you? How are they doing?
I mean, it isn’t about the jersey right?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:01 pm to SoFla Tideroller
You're killing me. I'm not avoiding anything. I'm gonna spell this out as clearly as I can.
1. The NFL has a monopoly on paid football players in the US. Until NIL in college sports, the only way to make money as a paid football player in the US was the NFL.
2. The NFL has a 3 year rule that says, a player MUST be 3 years out of high school to be eligible to play in the NFL.
Therefore, the combination of those 2 things explain why there was no market for 18-21 football players in the US until NIL.
I'm not avoiding shite. I'm stating some pretty simple facts of the matter here.
1. The NFL has a monopoly on paid football players in the US. Until NIL in college sports, the only way to make money as a paid football player in the US was the NFL.
2. The NFL has a 3 year rule that says, a player MUST be 3 years out of high school to be eligible to play in the NFL.
Therefore, the combination of those 2 things explain why there was no market for 18-21 football players in the US until NIL.
I'm not avoiding shite. I'm stating some pretty simple facts of the matter here.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:08 pm to AUTubaHerd
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those two-bit used car dealers in Foley, AL, regret passing out all those Dodge Chargers.
No more than Auburn regrets donating 150k to the good reverend Newtons church.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:10 pm to captdalton
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Alabama athletics as a whole lost $28 million in 2024. Should they bill every athlete equally?
No. Why would they? Does any other company bill employees when the company loses money? No. They pay the employees the salary that they agreed to pay them when they hired them.
If the company can't make money, they lay off employees, sell assets, make more money from sales.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:10 pm to p226
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You're killing me. I'm not avoiding anything. I'm gonna spell this out as clearly as I can.
1. The NFL has a monopoly on paid football players in the US. Until NIL in college sports, the only way to make money as a paid football player in the US was the NFL.
Ok, you're either purposely avoiding it or you're too dense to get the point. You are contending those are the only options: wait for the NFL or college? What law is preventing a group of businessmen like Lamar Hunt, Bud Adams and the other AFL founders from coming along and starting an 18-21 yr old league? Why can't that happen? It's your contention that these players are such an irresistible draw that surely some astute entrepreneur is going to meet this insatiable demand for 18-21 year old football players and steal this labor force from those exploitative universities, right? Why in the last 100 years hasn't this happened?
You haven't answered that question because you don't like the answer you would have to truthfully provide.
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:13 pm to p226
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This gives NFL a free farm system, and ensures that any player that wants to make a living from football waits until they’re 21 to make money at it - since the NFL is the only pro football league in the US.
That still doesn’t really explain what’s preventing someone from starting a league for 18-21 year olds. Sure the 3 year rule helps colleges, but if someone started their own minor league the players would choose to get paid for 3 years by them. No one would go watch, so there’s no market. Do you see more minor league baseball games or college games on tv? More G League games or more college basketball games? They have better players in those leagues, but no one cares about minor leagues. People like the big leagues and they like watching their schools play
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:15 pm to captdalton
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Are you watching Walker Howard this year?
yea, I was. He got hurt, oblique surgery.
Are YOU tuning into college football games to watch the coaches? the referees?
No, you're watching the players on the field play the game. so why would coaches and ref's get paid while 18-21 year old players NOT get paid because they're "student athletes"?
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:16 pm to p226
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. The NFL has a monopoly on paid football players in the US. Until NIL in college sports, the only way to make money as a paid football player in the US was the NFL.
XFL and USFL
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