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re: Rivals' final rankings...who moves?

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Posted by auburntiger77
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:36 am to
Do the stars really matter??? Calloway will be the same player regardless of what Rivals does... But Rivals always bumps at least one or two BAMMER players up and usually bumps one or two Auburn players down... they have done that for years...
Posted by FTBLFN
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:39 am to
Examples and links, please.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:41 am to
IMO, Calloway should drop at least 1 star if he is to play RB. I think Wilder should drop a star as well if evaluated as a RB. Westerman has a good chance of picking up a 5th star. Hart will also.
Posted by mmjones87
we so cold
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 10:41 am to
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IMO, Calloway should drop at least 1 star if he is to play RB. I think Wilder should drop a star as well if evaluated as a RB


This
Posted by kage
ATL
Member since Feb 2010
4068 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:24 pm to
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Because he is being recruited as a running back.


And we were recruiting Frost as a WR, but he was an ATH, even though almost everyone assumed he'd end up at LB. Same thing goes for Calloway. We may be recruiting him as a RB, but most everyone I've seen assumes he'll probably end up at LB, which is where bama was recruiting him.

He's a guy that can play a couple different positions, even safety, as one of my bama friends thought he'd end up at if he'd stuck with bama. That's the definition of an ATH recruit.

And in the long run, it really doesn't matter, but I just find it funny that rivals conveniently would pigeon hole him at RB and possibly drop him a star, after he commits to us. Oh well, such is cruitin'...
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 1:27 pm to
Landry won't be given a fifth star unfortunately but he's the best receiver in the country and I wish the rankings would indicate as much. Oh well he'll still be a beast for us.
Posted by show me your TDs
where i be at
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 2:09 pm to
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But Rivals always bumps at least one or two BAMMER players up and usually bumps one or two Auburn players down... they have done that for years...


sorta like they bumped up Coleman last year and then the Denson kid out of now where this year...come on man the theory for the bias really gets old especially when there are examples of stupid ratings on all the big schools in the SEC not to mention AU beat UA in the rankings last year.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89452 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 2:28 pm to
Crowell should finally receive a 5th star. One of our Oline commits might drop down from a 4 to a 3, maybe.
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 2:31 pm to
I believe I read somewhere that Calloway is still being evaluated as a LB. I expect him to keep his 5th star, but maybe get jumped by some people.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:06 pm to
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Will Tyrann Matthieu retroactively get a fourth star ? I hope so. I'm tired of Les recruiting under-the-radar guys that disallow me from making a t-shirt up like the Gumps .


Dareus was a 3 star FWIW.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:10 pm to
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CJ Johnson could make a huge jump. He is like no. 136 or something right now? But I could see him getting a 5th star after very good showings at the MS/AL all star game and the Army AA week.


No
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41194 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:12 pm to
LINK

Confirmed to be moving into the 250.
Posted by yamammasprofile
LSU bball will win 9 SEC games
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:12 pm to
18 tackles in an all-star game is a bit ridiculous. And the Rivals guys have said as much that he will make a huge jump and contend for a 5th star
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:12 pm to
As soon as Crowell commits to Bama, Rivals will raise him to a 5* accordingly.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12336 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:15 pm to
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Examples and links, please.


I know that our kicker went from being the number 1 kicker for 2 years to being 3rd or 4th at the last minute and that kicked us back a spot in the Rivals rankings last year. Something about how position ranks get bonuses? But he was the number 1 kicker for the entire senior season and got a last minute bump down.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:16 pm to
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Warfarer
I think that is because he absolutely sucked in the all star game.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:17 pm to
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I know that our kicker went from being the number 1 kicker for 2 years to being 3rd or 4th at the last minute and that kicked us back a spot in the Rivals rankings last year. Something about how position ranks get bonuses? But he was the number 1 kicker for the entire senior season and got a last minute bump down.






Really? Really? This is your proof that Yahoo! Inc. hates Auburn University for no apparent reason and also loves the University of Alabama above all others for no reason?
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17248 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:20 pm to
I don't know why they didn't drop Jujuan James or Keenan Allen down a star last year. Bama rules should apply all the time. Maybe Allen was too late but they certainly had time to drop James.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34421 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 3:41 pm to
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Do the stars really matter??? Calloway will be the same player regardless of what Rivals does... But Rivals always bumps at least one or two BAMMER players up and usually bumps one or two Auburn players down... they have done that for years...


This just ain't true
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5036 posts
Posted on 1/17/11 at 4:03 pm to
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Really? Really? This is your proof that Yahoo! Inc. hates Auburn University for no apparent reason and also loves the University of Alabama above all others for no reason?


It's not about loving or hating. The simple fact is that Rivals is a business (and one that isn't paying the dividends Yahoo expected as well).

Rivals primary source of revenue is subscriptions. There are far more Bama subscribers then there are Auburn subscribers. There are also far more potential subscribers to target on the Bama side. At some point objectivity is going to give way to what's best for business profits.

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's better for the bottom line to appease Bama fans. Obviously they couldn't - or wouldn't - take this to the extreme, but borderline calls are a different story. For example, if they're waivering on whether Calloway is a 4 or 5-star, his decommitment from Bama and switching to Auburn on national TV is going to tip that scale for them, no doubt.

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