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re: Richt's last year
Posted on 5/28/09 at 12:38 pm to lyger68
Posted on 5/28/09 at 12:38 pm to lyger68
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Richt needs to stop losing to Tennessee
That might happen now UT has Lame
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Richt needs to stop losing to Florida
Might not happen anytime soon. Remeber he lost two games to the Mighty Zooker.
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Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:18 pm to Geauxtigers468
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At some point you have to want more. mark richt will never win the NC because you have to run up the score these days and he won't do that.
Did you miss the 2004 UGA-LSU game? That's just 1 example of where you are wrong.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:31 pm to dawgorama
Seems there was just another chain on here this morning discussing the GOAT status of coaches, asking about Meyer's place should he win the title this year. In that chain, he was being compared to Osbourne and Paterno if I recall.
Both of those men went 20+ years before winning a national title. There are a dozen examples all over sports of coaches that are "legendary" that had major question marks before the perfect season. Roy Williams, Lute Olson, Jim Boehim in hoops, the two legends I listed above, plus Bobby Bowden endured decades before getting a title.
The National Title thing is ellusive, but Larry Coker has one, and nobody is going to say he is a better coach than Richt.
He is safe.
Both of those men went 20+ years before winning a national title. There are a dozen examples all over sports of coaches that are "legendary" that had major question marks before the perfect season. Roy Williams, Lute Olson, Jim Boehim in hoops, the two legends I listed above, plus Bobby Bowden endured decades before getting a title.
The National Title thing is ellusive, but Larry Coker has one, and nobody is going to say he is a better coach than Richt.
He is safe.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:34 pm to Hooligan33
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The National Title thing is ellusive, but Larry Coker has one, and nobody is going to say he is a better coach than Richt.
In a similar discussion to this, no less than 5 LSU fans agreed that due to the NC Larry Coker was clearly a better coach than Richt.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 1:56 pm to Hooligan33
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Hooligan33
You are trying to put logic into a fan base that has the what have you done for me lately attitude. I know Richt is beloved at UGA as well as around the SEC, but the names you listed and stats you provided were from what era? IMO the only man that's safe is Nuttless from Ole Piss. I hope Richt stays for a long time, but I don't see it happening.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:01 pm to lyger68
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You are trying to put logic into a fan base that has the what have you done for me lately attitude. I know Richt is beloved at UGA as well as around the SEC, but the names you listed and stats you provided were from what era? IMO the only man that's safe is Nuttless from Ole Piss. I hope Richt stays for a long time, but I don't see it happening.
Short of a string (talking 3 or so) of consecutive 4/5 loss seasons or a lack of SEC Championship for 5 years or so...Richt is completely safe in Athens. We've only had 6 Head Coaches..in the last 80 years.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:03 pm to dawgorama
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Did you miss the 2004 UGA-LSU game
No I was there in Athens for the game. And what I am talking about is how on teams he should run the score up on he doesn't.
Examples 2004 & 2008 uga-Ga Southern game. In both games you let Southern keep in within 20 points. Teams like that you have to beat by more than 20.
But like I said you have to want more than 10 wins a season, you need a coach that goes in for the kill when you have your foot on the neck of your opponent, you can't let them back up when you need to go in for the kill, instead of the awwww shucks 10 wins will always be good enough.
Am I trying to say that richt isn't a good coach no I am not, do I like richt no, but I have never said that I did.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:03 pm to dawgorama
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Short of a string (talking 3 or so) of consecutive 4/5 loss seasons or a lack of SEC Championship for 5 years or so...Richt is completely safe in Athens. We've only had 6 Head Coaches..in the last 80 years.
Richt is definitely safe. However, living in Atlanta and listening to talk radio, I can tell you that he is seriously pissing the dawg fans off with being so loyal to Martinez. Tuberville was the same way with some of his guys....just saying!
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:12 pm to Geauxtigers468
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But like I said you have to want more than 10 wins a season, you need a coach that goes in for the kill when you have your foot on the neck of your opponent, you can't let them back up when you need to go in for the kill, instead of the awwww shucks 10 wins will always be good enough.
As I've pointed out..he's won MORE than 10 games (11, 13, 11) on 3 out of 8 tries ( 37.5% of the time). UGA didn't miss out on anything by not beating GSU by 50 points..getting our arse kicked by UT (2004) and (Bama/UF) in 2008 was our downfall.
You're making just ridiculously stupid "points".
The guy has won atleast 11 games and played in a BCS bowl 37.5% of the time he has been here. He's won the SEC in 25% of his seasons. NCs are NOT within the coaches control..that is just fact. Look at AU 2004. You can't do more than win every game..NO NC for a PERFECT SEC SEASON. Les gets one for a season in which he lost to KENTUCKY AND ARKANSAS.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:14 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Richt is definitely safe. However, living in Atlanta and listening to talk radio, I can tell you that he is seriously pissing the dawg fans off with being so loyal to Martinez. Tuberville was the same way with some of his guys....just saying!
Tubervilles lack of SEC titles was his downfall, imo. But Richt will need to make a change if we've got a crappy defense this year.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:18 pm to dawgorama
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As I've pointed out..he's won MORE than 10 games (11, 13, 11) on 3 out of 8 tries
I KNOW he has won more than just 10 games in season, what I am saying is when you shoot to win 10 games a year and consider it a great year is when you need to change your goddamn mind set. Yes you won 10 games last year but it should be looked at as a disappointment for not living up to the caliber team you supposedly were coming in to the season.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:24 pm to Geauxtigers468
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I KNOW he has won more than just 10 games in season, what I am saying is when you shoot to win 10 games a year and consider it a great year is when you need to change your goddamn mind set. Yes you won 10 games last year but it should be looked at as a disappointment for not living up to the caliber team you supposedly were coming in to the season
And that's the point..HE DIDN'T SHOOT FOR 10 Games..he's not happy about last year...and it is viewed as a disappointment. He's not firing Martinez over 1 bad year (and statistically that's what he's had 1 bad year out of 4)..he's known the guy for 30 years (they played together at Miami).
Don't mistake my defending Richt as a coach for my being happy about getting pants by Bama or arse raped by UF. And I damn sure am not happy about the GT game.
You also HAVE to consider things like injuries..and we suffered more than any UGA team I can recall in 2008.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:31 pm to dawgorama
How bout we agree to disagree. 
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:38 pm to Geauxtigers468
The only heat Richt will get if he has a mediocre season is to fire Martinez. UGA will never win a nc as long as Martinez is dc.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:42 pm to Geauxtigers468
Richt's only problem (& everybody else's in the SEC) is that friggin' team down there in Gaines"fricking"ville... They are the reason UGA hasn't played for all the marbles.. Richt & the DAWGS have to get that MFing monkey off their back to make the MNC game... 
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:46 pm to dallasga6
UF isn't UGA's only problem. Tech is starting to shine. Oh and by the way, LSU is coming to your house this year.
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:50 pm to lyger68
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LSU is coming to your house this year.
Uh oh!!!!This post was edited on 5/28/09 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 5/28/09 at 2:57 pm to lyger68
Lyger68, UGA gonna have a tough time getting to 10 wins this year. Not saying we can't but like an awful lot of the teams in the SEC( LSU, BAMA, Ole Miss, Ark)we all have alot of question marks that have to be answered. Obviously as fans we expect the best case scenario for our question marks & make sure our rivals are aware of theirs.. It's gonna be a very interesting year in the SEC & i for one can't wait to see how it play's out.. Tech is on the rise but like i said about rivals they have to prove 1 win in 8 isn't a fluke... The nerds are definetly on the radar again with UGA fans & the game at Sanford Stadium Annex (grant field)is gonna be huge. Except for the Gates the rest of the SEC is up for grabs this year.. The West is gonna be an awesome race to watch...G.A.T.A.!!!
Posted on 5/29/09 at 10:53 am to dallasga6
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Richt's only problem (& everybody else's in the SEC) is that friggin' team down there in Gaines"fricking"ville... They are the reason UGA hasn't played for all the marbles
I have agreed with the Dawg fans throughout most of this thread, but have to disagree here. LSU has kept you from at least 2 opportunities to play in the BCSCG. If LSU hadn't existed, you likely would have been in the BCSCG in 2003 and 2007.
This post was edited on 5/29/09 at 10:55 am
Posted on 5/29/09 at 10:55 am to dallasga6
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Not saying we can't but like an awful lot of the teams in the SEC( LSU, BAMA, Ole Miss, Ark)we all have alot of question marks that have to be answered.
You also have the toughest schedule in the NCAA.
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