re: Remember when Bama used to play Big Boy Football?

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If you have a problem with the plays per game stats as it relates to up tempo offenses, take it up with George.

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PPG gives a rough idea of the tempo teams use in their offensive scheme. It's not, nor was it ever intended, to be an end-all-be-all breakdown of how a team utilizes the HUNH. You're intentionally misrepresenting George's post.

It's used when the offense finds something that's working to prevent defensive substitutions (hint: that's the sticking point) and slowed down when it stops working until the offense reads another chunk play or series of plays that will work.

The reason people called it gimmicky was that one of it's core tenants was to prevent substitutions and blur the line on OL down field. Throw in all the speed sweeps and trick plays and walla.

Agree or disagree with that, whatever. But those were plain as day the backbone of the "gimmicky high school offense" cracks.

And once again, our run offense has zero to do with that. So the origins of this thread still make no sense

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This thread is about a once proud program resorting to a gimmicky high school offense...the same type of offense they criticized Auburn for for years.

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You don’t know much about football, do ya sweetie?

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The reason people called it gimmicky was that one of it's core tenants was to prevent substitutions and blur the line on OL down field.

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You can accomplish the same thing by simply not huddling. Are you suggesting Bama doesn’t incorporate the no huddle?

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Throw in all the speed sweeps and trick plays and walla.

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And the RPOs, and the read option. All of a sudden we are straying from just the up tempo aspect.

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Are you suggesting Bama doesn’t incorporate the no huddle?

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We very rarely go no huddle. We change personnel quite frequently.

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And the RPOs, and the read option. All of a sudden we are straying from just the up tempo aspect.

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You seem set on which part of the original Gus system was called "gimmicky". I told you what it was (and that I didn't agree with it, frankly).

Again, for the 347th time, our offense does not resemble the 2010/2013 Auburn offenses in almost any way. We don't run read option, our pass tree concepts are about 60 times as complex, we don't use a fullback and we don't use hurry up. Literally the only comparative aspect is that we have an aspect of RPO in our game, though it differs quite a bit from the Auburn version.

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The reason people called it gimmicky was that one of it's core tenants was to prevent substitutions and blur the line on OL down field. Throw in all the speed sweeps and trick plays and walla.

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That was basically the Gus trick and they have adjusted the rules to help prevent that a bit.. when the offensive subs anybody they force them to wait until the defensive subs.

The bigger problem is the collection of rules that have changed over the past decade. The RPO is now the biggest issue and it's even becoming a issue in the NFL. What makes it successful is that they are allowing linemen to block downfield like it's a run. The defense basically cannot read the offense which means most of the time, they are on their heals.

Couple that with all the rules changes around not being able to touch the QB, can't hit the WRs etc.. it's turned into flag football.

I would even propose that QBs aren't really football players anymore. They don't ever really need to worry about getting hit, they just hand the ball off and throw it. Maybe once or twice a game somebody will touch them, but don't touch them high or that's a flag.

That is where the game is driving to, and don't get me started on kick offs. The kick off is now the most worthless event in the game. I always get a laugh when we call the hogs on kick off, or Georgia does their dog thing.. doesn't mean shite anymore because 90% of the time it's a touch back.

What's even more funny is that Arkansas' special teams are so bad that we fair catch it if it doesn't go into the end zone... lol, what a joke.

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"I would convert to Islam join isis and blow up buses of little kids before wishing anything good for bama." -TutHillTiger

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The fuk.

Only big boy football I recognize is inside traps.

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So, you agree that Bama has strayed (or started to stray) from big boy football?

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Define "big boy football."

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Define "big boy football."

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I already did in the OP. Smash mouth, hat on a hat, run it down your throat football.