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re: RBU (SEC) is Georgia
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:11 pm to ATLtiger12
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:11 pm to ATLtiger12
Auburn = RBU
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Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:15 pm to ATLtiger12
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List below is Team, Average Rank of RB's in SEC Top 50, # of RB's in SEC Top 50, and Total Yards in SEC Top 50.
I'm not cruching the numbers, so this isn't to pump UGA up bc for all I know it could drop us in that list...but why 50? That seems like an awfully high number of people when trying to determine which school is the best at something. I mean damn, 50 people is a ton.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:18 pm to Rollo
I get your point here, and I am not saying that Bo is better than Herschel or vice versa, but Auburn should have won the national championship in 1983. Only because of an outdated and ineffective system of choosing a national champion in those days did Auburn not win a national championship during Bo's time there.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:23 pm to TeddyWestside
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Auburn should have won the national championship in 1983. Only because of an outdated and ineffective system of choosing a national champion in those days did Auburn not win a national championship during Bo's time there.
so waht? It was the system at the time.
In 1946 UGA and UCLA were the only teams ending the regular season undefeated. They played each other in the sugar bowl with UGA winning. UGA should easily claim the '46 tiel but instead it's split between ND and Army, neither of which even played in a bowl game. Bc why should they? They announced the title winners before bowl season even started.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:23 pm to WG_Dawg
Fair question, but I don't think 50 is that large of a number when you are talking about all SEC running backs across 12-14 teams over the last 50 years.
Running backs that are in the 30-50 all time rankings include: Darius Guice, Trent Richardson, Deuce McAllister, Arian Foster, Fred Taylor, and Stephen Davis. I think fans of any of those teams would say it is fair to include those running backs in consideration of whether or not they are RBU or not.
Running backs that are in the 30-50 all time rankings include: Darius Guice, Trent Richardson, Deuce McAllister, Arian Foster, Fred Taylor, and Stephen Davis. I think fans of any of those teams would say it is fair to include those running backs in consideration of whether or not they are RBU or not.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:24 pm to ATLtiger12
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ATLtiger12
I dunno man, when I think "who is the best?" I don't care who is in the top 50. Top 5, Top 10, but after that bleh. Ga has the top 2. Bama has no one in the top 10 (top 15 even). Bama's best 2 are Henry and Alexander (17th and 18th). If Alexander left his junior year like Henry and Herschel did, Herschel's yards are about equal to both guys put together.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:27 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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Not sure why Bama thinks they have any claim to this.
We don't really, except to screw with Auburn. Still, two Heisman RBs is a strong case.
But this:
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Top 15 all-time SEC rushers: Ga has 2 (the top 2) Bama has 0
We have the single-season record holder. Not our fault more good RBs come to Bama meaning we don't have to run them into the ground. Even Johnny Musso split time and shared the backfield with a kid who finished top 10 in rushing yards that season.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:31 pm to WG_Dawg
That is irrelevant. What does 1946 have to do with Bo/Herschel? I know how the system worked. I am saying that arguing that Herschel is better than Bo because Herschel won a national championship and Bo did not is a weak argument because it only proves that the national media (correctly) recognized Georgia's accomplishments in 1980 and (incorrectly) snubbed Auburn in 1983.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:35 pm to ATLtiger12
While receiving Yds and pass blocking are HUGE components of what makes a RB great in football today, they are still RUNNING Backs, so yards per rush (min 300 attempts) is a good measure for comparison
ETA: throw out the QBs and accept that some of the list were #2s that benefited coming in for mop up/change of pace behind a strong #1 RB, which still indicates quality depth. Also, list only goes back to 1956 and doesn't include stats of expansion schools before joining the SEC.
All that said, Auburn still looks like RBU to me.
ETA: throw out the QBs and accept that some of the list were #2s that benefited coming in for mop up/change of pace behind a strong #1 RB, which still indicates quality depth. Also, list only goes back to 1956 and doesn't include stats of expansion schools before joining the SEC. All that said, Auburn still looks like RBU to me.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:36 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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Not sure why Bama thinks they have any claim to this.
RB Heisman winners
Alabama: 2
Georgia: 2
Auburn: 1
LSU: 1
South Carolina: 1
Texas A&M: 1
RB Camp winners
Alabama: 1
Arkansas: 1
Auburn: 1
Georgia: 1
RB Maxwell winners
Georgia: 1
Alabama: 1
Walker winners
Alabama: 2
Arkansas: 2
Georgia: 1
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:38 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Having top two on the list is awesome and definitely says a lot about your University's running back history, no doubt about it. But you have to find a way to take into account the full history of running backs in order to be RBU, not just two guys that carry the entire load.
Being outside the top 15 on that list doesn't necessarily mean you weren't one of the great running backs in SEC history. It probably just means that you got injured, or backed up another great back for two years, or split time in the backfield. In order to be a top 15 all time running in back in the SEC you pretty much need to play and be healthy for 4 years in college. A lot of great RB's didn't have that opportunity.
It's just one way to look at the entire picture. Otherwise you could declare Auburn QBU because we have two Heisman winning QB's.
Being outside the top 15 on that list doesn't necessarily mean you weren't one of the great running backs in SEC history. It probably just means that you got injured, or backed up another great back for two years, or split time in the backfield. In order to be a top 15 all time running in back in the SEC you pretty much need to play and be healthy for 4 years in college. A lot of great RB's didn't have that opportunity.
It's just one way to look at the entire picture. Otherwise you could declare Auburn QBU because we have two Heisman winning QB's.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 3:49 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Georgia can have the RBU title all they want, Bama will keep taking these titles:
Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:09 pm to PurpleandGeauld
>>>>>0
Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:32 pm to wareaglepete
Forgot that. Thanks, Herschel also the better multi-sport star.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 4:35 pm to TeddyWestside
Auburn would've had to beat Texas, who had already beaten them pretty handily earlier in the year and Nebraska. Not likely.
Posted on 4/3/18 at 10:43 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Did someone claim we were RBU?
We're "gonna have 2 or 3 really good RBs every year that will be really good and probably win the national title " U.
We're "gonna have 2 or 3 really good RBs every year that will be really good and probably win the national title " U.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:16 pm to 14caratgoldjones
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Of course you didn't. You wanted to bring something relevant to the table
Solid post. 7SU is definitely irrelevant.
Also
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:29 pm to koreandawg
Just like AU beat UGA handeley & then UGA turned around & whipped them? Not as unlikely as you think.
This post was edited on 4/3/18 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 4/3/18 at 11:33 pm to RT1941
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Auburn = RBU
I agree with this. Early in Bo's career, Auburn had a lot of very good backs getting carries. Then followed that with Stacey Danley and James Joseph. James Bostic and Stephen Davis. They've always had very productive backs. Except for what Tuberville inherited. He had to scrape together some guys
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:08 am to PurpleandGeauld
It might surprise you to learn this, but a player’s NFL career doesn’t retroactively give his attended college any championships.
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