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re: Ranking the SEC schools academically?

Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Lumberg321
Taylor, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:10 am to
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Who cares. Go to any SEC school get a useful degree and get a job. They can all do that for you. The end.


Solid.
Posted by gatormed
Gainesville
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:11 am to
Lol, Louisville is not. I don't have to check rankings to know that! Check them if you want, but Louisville is not on par academically.

And I apologize! I finally found UAB's med school ranking. It's in the 30s, UF's in the 40s, and Miami in the 50s. Didn't know you guys had a good med school!
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
19165 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:13 am to
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according to this Top Schools in the world LINK

Vandy, Florida, Texas A&M, UGA, UK, Missouri, USCe, Auburn, and Arkansas



Do you actually look at your link before you post?

According to your link:

Vandy - 50
Florida - 72
aTm - 93
UGA - 101-150 (range provided after top 100)
Tennessee - 151-200
Kentucky - 201-300
USCe - 201-300
Missouri - 201-300
LSU - 201-300
Auburn - 401-500
Arkansas - 401-500
Alabama - not in top 500
Ole Miss - not in top 500
MSU - not in top 500
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37655 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:14 am to
[quote]Would everyone agree that the main purpose of a degre,e for most people, is to get a job (probably in the specific field the degree is in?)

Well global companies have ranked the quality of the applicants from various world wide universities. The data was independently gathered/verified. There are only 4 SEC schools in the Top 150, globally.

USC is #2 in the SEC!

#1 is aTm
#3 is Vandy
#4 is UF

LINK ]

Thank you - but that was never the purpose of this thread so you might as well have posted that on a wall in an empty room.

But you and I know - and we know about our Honors College and our International School of Business, etc.

It's all good Brother.
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:16 am to
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Yeah, there are more engineering grads, skewing the salaries. Hence why starting salary isn't enough to just declare Auburn better than selective research powerhouses like Florida and TAMU


Personally I cared about getting a degree and getting it as cheap as possible from a decent school. LSU provided that. I could care less about what bullshite research the overpayed professors are doing. You will do fine going to any SEC school and studying hard and having goals.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 10:18 am
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15606 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:29 am to
LSU is a Tier I institution with numerous Top Ten programs nationally: Veterinary Medicine, Petroleum Engineering, Hurricane Engineering/Meteorology, Internal Auditing, Entrepreneurial Studies,
Landscape Architecture, etc.
It also has one of the most renowned research facilities in the world - the Pennington Biomedical Research facility, and highly acclaimed MBA, Business, Music & Dramatic Arts, Law, Agribusiness, Geophysics, and all Engineering disciplines.
LSU has the prototype Cox Academic Center for Student-Athletes, lauded in the WSJ and NY Times as well as national and international Academic circles.
LSU is one of few highly rated research insitutes ranked in the Carnegie Very High Research consortium and is one of few land, sea, environmental, and space-grant institutions.

The ForeverLSU Campaign which kicked off at LSU's SesquiCentennial anniversary in 2010 has raised hundreds of millions of dollars and whose quality thrust will have LSU as one of the top public insitutions in the nation in this decade.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 10:30 am
Posted by rolltide06
Member since Jun 2011
1533 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:30 am to
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One of US News ranking criterias is acceptance rates. Bama's is in the 40% because every redneck with a GED from Alabama applies and they get to pad their numbers with those rejections. Bama's President has pushed had to bring the enrollment to 30K+ that the student body is waterdowned with marginal students.


Yep, we are all inbred rednecks that are marginal students. You are ignorant.

quote:

The University of Alabama’s fall 2012 freshman class includes 239 National Merit Scholars, an increase of 32 percent over fall 2011. While 2012 rankings are not available yet, UA ranked 2nd in the nation among public universities in the enrollment of National Merit Scholars in 2011 with 181 scholars in the freshman class.


quote:

The University of Alabama led the nation with a record 10 students named to USA Today’s 2010 All-USA College Academic Team. UA has had great success in placing students on this national team that honors the “best of the best” undergraduate academic all-stars from across the nation, having placed 46 students on the team since 2003. In addition to this year, UA also had the most students on the list in 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008 and 2009 and tied for the top spot in 2007.


quote:

The University of Alabama’s graduates and students include 15 Rhodes Scholars, and in the past 25 years, UA has produced 37 Goldwater Scholars, 8 Truman Scholars, 19 Hollings Scholars, two Javits Fellows, one Udall Scholar and one Portz Scholar.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140552 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:32 am to
How many of those merit scholars are from Bama? I have no idea and it's not a flame. One of the issues I have with UF now is all the out of state students and foreigners eating up space that should be used for Florida residents first.

Is Bama experiencing the same thing?
Posted by rolltide06
Member since Jun 2011
1533 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:36 am to
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Is Bama experiencing the same thing?


I have no idea to be honest. I do know that for the first time in the history of the University there are more out of state students at Bama now than in state I believe. UA has really stepped up recruiting in the wealthy suburbs of Dallas, Nashville, Atlanta, Tampa, etc and it really seems to be paying off.
Posted by gatormed
Gainesville
Member since Dec 2012
16 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:36 am to
UF gets a lot of students from Georgia and other southern states. I've got some friends from New York and Texas, and there are some international students. Mostly in state residents though.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 10:39 am
Posted by McRebel42
North Mississippi Hollywood
Member since Oct 2012
11606 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:38 am to
Well our School of Accountancy kicks everybodies arse so you


and our females are hotter so you again

This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 10:42 am
Posted by rolltide06
Member since Jun 2011
1533 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:41 am to
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All those foreigners eating up space?


There are a decent amount of foreigners but nothing like UF I believe. Mainly a lot of Asians. Tuscaloosa is the sister city to a city in Japan and I know we get a lot of students from that particular area of Japan.
Posted by rolltide06
Member since Jun 2011
1533 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:42 am to
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our females are hotter


This is another myth. All SEC schools have hot girls and yours are no different.
Posted by gatormed
Gainesville
Member since Dec 2012
16 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:49 am to
Yeah, there are a lot of Asians at UF, and they all stick together in student organizations and stuff haha. Half of my best friends are Asian, and I love them!
Posted by elvisleft
Member since Sep 2012
518 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:56 am to
Vandy PhD and professor elsewhere....

Academic rankings aren't meaningless, but their meaning isn't exactly clear either.

If you're talking research, Florida is the best SEC school. Not really close. (I should correct: I haven't looked at A&M on this.)

If you're talking professional schools, Vandy by an even wider margin.

If you mean overall quality of undergrad education, Vandy has smaller classes, smarter students, and (overall) more accomplished professors. I don't know how else you'd measure something like that -- earning is not the answer from an academic's point of view.

Inside academia, we think more about programs than about schools. Who knows? Maybe Ole Miss is #1 in history. (I know they're good.) Carolina is famous for international business.

Finally, they're all fine schools. It's what you make of it. Vandy is probably the only one where you can major in history and still get interviewed for a Wall Street job. I'd imagine your med school chances would be better with a 3.4 from Vandy than with a 3.4 from one of the other schools.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 10:59 am
Posted by gatormed
Gainesville
Member since Dec 2012
16 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 10:59 am to
I go to Florida and can attest to the graduate research programs. They're all top notch. But aTm is great too. Known for engineering. Florida for research in the sciences, with a solid engineering program.
Posted by dawgRUSH
New York, NY
Member since Nov 2011
951 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 11:11 am to
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Well our School of Accountancy kicks everybodies arse


UGA's Accounting program disagrees.
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15606 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 11:19 am to
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gatormed
Ranking the SEC schools academically?


I go to Florida and can attest to the graduate research programs. They're all top notch. But aTm is great too. Known for engineering. Florida for research in the sciences, with a solid engineering program.




LSU also:

•LSU is designated as having very high research programs and activity (RU/VH) by the prestigious Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, the highest ranking awarded to doctorate-granting institutions.

•LSU currently ranks among the top 30 public universities in total research awards. The University’s total federal funding; from agencies such as the National Science Foundation, National Institutes of Health, and the Department of Homeland Security; has increased more than $90 million over the last five years.

*LSU's Petroleum Engineering Department annually ranks in the nation's top twenty programs and the Graduate School in the Craft & Hawkins School of Petroleum Engineering ranks in the nation's top five.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15340 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 11:22 am to
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Who cares. Go to any SEC school get a useful degree and get a job. They can all do that for you. The end.
Posted by JDM1992
In your head
Member since Dec 2011
15141 posts
Posted on 1/3/13 at 11:24 am to
This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 2:08 pm
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