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re: Ranking the Likelihood of Permanent Opponent Rivalries
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:22 pm to AUTiger789
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:22 pm to AUTiger789
Don't sleep on bringing Vanderbilt vs Ole Miss back.
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Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:22 pm to McNet
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Rivalry Weekend Scene 1: Arkansas-Texas LSU-Texas A&M Missouri-Oklahoma
Texas and A&M will undoubtedly play on rivalry week. Zero doubt
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Rivalry Weekend Scene 2: Arkansas-Missouri LSU-None (Tulane?) Texas-Texas A&M
Possible, but unlikely. There is no benefit to LSU renewing the rivalry with Tulane.
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Rivalry Weekend Scene 3:
Arkansas-LSU (non-conference)
Missouri-Oklahoma
Texas-Texas A&M
Wtf
why would LSU schedule Arkansas as a non-conference game after moving to a 9 game SEC schedule?? And then play them twice on years Arkansas moves into LSU’s rotation. Makes absolutely no sense. As I mentioned earlier, the best solution to the LSU-rivalry week problem is making Arkansas and LSU permanent opponents. Oklahoma can play Missouri on Rivalry week.
Ole Miss will be LSU’s 2nd permanent and the 3rd is up in the air.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:29 pm to Ping Pong
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Switch Arkansas's rivalry week opponent to LSU and switch Missouri's to Oklahoma.
Certainly possible. The counterpoint which may be important to schedulers is doing that creates two meh matchups (from a national perspective) whereas you could at least get one higher end matchup with LSU-OU. Still even that one will pale in comparison to other matchups from rivalry week. At least at first or when both teams have had a good season and especially when the game has something on the line.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:30 pm to AUTiger789
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100% Likely to Play Annually: 1. Auburn vs Alabama 4. Ole Miss vs Mississippi State 7. Texas vs Texas A&M
Somewhere between 50% and 99% likely to Play Annually: 9.Tennessee vs Vanderbilt
Why have only 3 of the 4 SAME STATE SCHOOLS play annually?
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:36 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Don't be surprised when they release the permanent opponents and you see bama vs vandy.
Y’all are the biggest fricking victims on earth.
WTF you talking about?
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:38 pm to WestSideTiger
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Certainly possible. The counterpoint which may be important to schedulers is doing that creates two meh matchups (from a national perspective) whereas you could at least get one higher end matchup with LSU-OU. Still even that one will pale in comparison to other matchups from rivalry week. At least at first or when both teams have had a good season and especially when the game has something on the line.
Under the new scheduling format every SEC team will play each other across 2 seasons. This will create the most balanced scheduling the SEC has ever had. Having 6 rotational games negates the need to assign permanent opponents for the purpose of “creating higher-end matchups”. The Big matchups will happen regardless. The purpose of 3 permanent opponents is to preserve traditional rivalries and provide consistency in rivalry week scheduling.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:45 pm to Ping Pong
Copied from above. I think this is how it will shake out exactly.
Possible Final Set-Up:
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, Miss State
Arkansas: Texas, Missouri, Ole Miss
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Miss State
Florida: Georgia, South Carolina, LSU
Georgia: Florida, Auburn, South Carolina
Kentucky: Vanderbilt, Tennessee, South Carolina
LSU: Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Florida
Ole Miss: Miss State, LSU, Arkansas
Miss State: Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn
Missouri: Oklahoma, Arkansas, Vanderbilt
Oklahoma: Texas, Missouri, Texas A&M
South Carolina: Georgia, Florida, Kentucky
Tennessee: Alabama, Vanderbilt, Kentucky
Texas: Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Arkansas
Texas A&M: Texas, LSU, Oklahoma
Vanderbilt: Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri
Possible Final Set-Up:
Alabama: Auburn, Tennessee, Miss State
Arkansas: Texas, Missouri, Ole Miss
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Miss State
Florida: Georgia, South Carolina, LSU
Georgia: Florida, Auburn, South Carolina
Kentucky: Vanderbilt, Tennessee, South Carolina
LSU: Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Florida
Ole Miss: Miss State, LSU, Arkansas
Miss State: Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn
Missouri: Oklahoma, Arkansas, Vanderbilt
Oklahoma: Texas, Missouri, Texas A&M
South Carolina: Georgia, Florida, Kentucky
Tennessee: Alabama, Vanderbilt, Kentucky
Texas: Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Arkansas
Texas A&M: Texas, LSU, Oklahoma
Vanderbilt: Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:56 pm to Ping Pong
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As I mentioned earlier, the best solution to the LSU-rivalry week problem is making Arkansas and LSU permanent opponents. Oklahoma can play Missouri on Rivalry week.
Ole Miss will be LSU’s 2nd permanent and the 3rd is up in the air.
You say all this but you still can't give a final schedule. Go ahead try to do all 16 teams to include Rivalry Week. It ain't easy. There will always be some compromises and missed old rivalries.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 12:56 pm to Hawgleg
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LSU: Ole Miss, Texas A&M, Florida
Wont happen. The 3 teams chosen for LSU must solve this problem:
So who does LSU play the last week of the season? Cant be one of those 3 teams. Ole Miss plays Miss St, A&M plays Texas, and Florida plays FSU.
Rivalry week cant be a rotational SEC game for LSU. Everyone else (except Oklahoma) has a permanent opponent on rivalry week.
It also cant be a non-conference game (unless we renew the Tulane rivalry). It’s not easy to find a team thats open on rivalry week.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:01 pm to Ping Pong
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Wont happen. The 3 teams chosen for LSU must solve this problem:
So who does LSU play the last week of the season? Cant be one of those 3 teams. Ole Miss plays Miss St, A&M plays Texas, and Florida plays FSU.
Rivalry week cant be a rotational SEC game for LSU. Everyone else (except Oklahoma) has a permanent opponent on rivalry week.
It also cant be a non-conference game (unless we renew the Tulane rivalry). It’s not easy to find a team thats open on rivalry week.
Dude, you keep talking, can't this and can't that. Give us your lineup or STFU.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:01 pm to McNet
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You say all this but you still can't give a final schedule. Go ahead try to do all 16 teams to include Rivalry Week. It ain't easy. There will always be some compromises and missed old rivalries.
There are many possible schedules that will work. The third team for LSU could be A&M, Florida, or even Alabama or Auburn. That decision will depend on which team has a slot open after other permanent games are selected.
Im just pointing out a glaring problem that must be resolved with the 3 permanent teams chosen for LSU. LSU needs a permanent opponent for rivalry week. The SEC cares a lot more about fixing that than preserving 2nd rate rivalries for LSU. As they should
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:06 pm to Ping Pong
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There are many possible schedules that will work. The third team for LSU could be A&M, Florida, or even Alabama or Auburn. That decision will depend on which team has a slot open after other permanent games are selected.
Im just pointing out a glaring problem that must be resolved with the 3 permanent teams chosen for LSU. LSU needs a permanent opponent for rivalry week. The SEC cares a lot more about fixing that than preserving 2nd rate rivalries for LSU. As they should
Give it a shot. You're a UVA grad. What do you have to lose?
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:07 pm to Ping Pong
quote:Exactly. The worst case scenario is you play one of your big rivals every other year, for those schools who have more than 3 legitimate big time historical rivalries. Most schools don't so it doesn't matter.
Under the new scheduling format every SEC team will play each other across 2 seasons. This will create the most balanced scheduling the SEC has ever had. Having 6 rotational games negates the need to assign permanent opponents for the purpose of “creating higher-end matchups”. The Big matchups will happen regardless. The purpose of 3 permanent opponents is to preserve traditional rivalries and provide consistency in rivalry week scheduling.
There's a pretty clear path here to keep everyone happy.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:09 pm to AUTiger789
The easy solution is to make rivalry weekend games non-conference game. But that is a good plans so stupid white men that run the SEC will not do that.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:10 pm to McNet
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Dude, you keep talking, can't this and can't that. Give us your lineup or STFU.
You’re not much of a problem solver, are you?
I’ve stated nothing but facts regarding factors and issues the SEC is undoubtedly must take into consideration.
As I’ve said multiple times, I believe Ole Miss and Arkansas are locks to be 2 of the 3 opponents for LSU. The third is a low priority for the SEC and will be decided by who else is left with a 3rd slot open. Best guess is A&M or Florida, but could possibly be Alabama or Auburn. Who LSU fans “want” to play as the 3rd is irrelevant.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:19 pm to Ping Pong
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You’re not much of a problem solver, are you?
My solution is on Page 1 - all 16 schools with 3 options for Rivalry Weekend.
Let's see yours.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:26 pm to Ping Pong
This makes the most sense for Rivalry week:
Arkansas-LSU
Missouri-Oklahoma
Texas-Texas A&M
MSU-Ole Miss
UT-Vandy
Bama-AU
FLA-FSU
USC-Clemson
UGA-Ga Tech
UK-Louisville
Arkansas-LSU
Missouri-Oklahoma
Texas-Texas A&M
MSU-Ole Miss
UT-Vandy
Bama-AU
FLA-FSU
USC-Clemson
UGA-Ga Tech
UK-Louisville
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:28 pm to MosesRAB93
For the record, I prefer Tex, LSU, and Arky for our three. We have the most history with these.
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:31 pm to AUTiger789
Why is East versus West a bad idea again? Simply adding Texas to one side, and Oklahoma to the other side?
Posted on 9/10/25 at 1:47 pm to MosesRAB93
Actually, this makes the most sense for Rivalry week:
Arkansas-LSU
Missouri-Kansas
Oklahoma-Oklahoma State
Texas-Texas A&M
MSU-Ole Miss
UT-Vandy
Bama-AU
FLA-FSU
USC-Clemson
UGA-Ga Tech
UK-Louisville
5 conference games, 6 non-conference games.
Arkansas-LSU
Missouri-Kansas
Oklahoma-Oklahoma State
Texas-Texas A&M
MSU-Ole Miss
UT-Vandy
Bama-AU
FLA-FSU
USC-Clemson
UGA-Ga Tech
UK-Louisville
5 conference games, 6 non-conference games.
This post was edited on 9/10/25 at 1:50 pm
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