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re: Question for the people who think Gus isn't a good coach
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:19 pm to AuburnPanic40
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:19 pm to AuburnPanic40
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Thoroughly looking forward to the arse beating that will take place in JHS when LSU comes to town next year. Hopefully this time when one of your autistic fans decides to light our trees on fire again we'll have a mob there to kick his arse as badly as our football team did LSU earlier in the day.
Guessing you will be the one hiding behind one of your buddies....
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Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:22 pm to AU24
quote:Probably.
you think the Auburn program is just so talent rich that the talent overcomes Gus's coaching?
12-2. Some ridiculous luck. Should have still been a 10 win season.
8-5
7-6
8-5
10-4
Your results don't say good. Decent yes, good no.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:23 pm to AU24
I think Gus is a good coach.
Maybe even very good.
Just not so sure that he's good ENOUGH.
Maybe even very good.
Just not so sure that he's good ENOUGH.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:25 pm to AU24
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Question for the people who think Gus isn't a good coach
I personally think Gus thinks he's a mensa level genuis that can out-scheme anyoen and everyone and often refuses to change things because he wants it "his way". Sometimes he will call a masterful game ('13 IB comes to mind). He is also at a school with plenty of talent and resources so of course he is going to win some ball games. But here is his record at AU
12-2
8-5
7-6
8-5
10-4
Sure Gus is a "good coach" but why should he be deserving of being called a "great" or anything higher coach? He has ONE season with less than 4 losses (yeesh). 60% of his seasons failed to win 9 games. He's won the SEC once in 5 years (for comparison Richt won it twice in his first 5). He has 1 bowl win, being the birmingham bowl. He's 4-7 against the 2 teams he will ultimately be judged against.
What level of good/great would you call him?
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:27 pm to llfshoals
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12-2. Some ridiculous luck. Should have still been a 10 win season.
8-5
7-6
8-5
10-4
With this year's team, Gus has a chance to do something that hasn't been done at AU in 30 years - he can win 10+ games in back-to-back seasons. If he can do that, where would AU fans rank him? Ahead of Tub, but still behind Dye?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:45 pm to AU24
Just had an nfl qb even though he was a pos...flukes...
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:46 pm to llfshoals
quote:Why?
12-2. Some ridiculous luck. Should have still been a 10 win season.
The Hail Mary against Georgia was the only lucky break that season.
Where else did all this “luck” take place?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:51 pm to bamasgot13
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If he can do that, where would AU fans rank him?
Depends on how many times throughout the season our fanbase starts calling for him to be fired.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:56 pm to BarnHardU
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The Hail Mary against Georgia was the only lucky break that season.
Where else did all this “luck” take place?
That hook is just glimmering in the sun.
Only 4 times in college football since 1960 has a missed FG been returned for a TD. Only once has it happened on the final play of the game. It may not be lucky, but it damn sure is rare.
If 100 teams (conservative) play an average of 12 games a season that's 1,200 games. Divide by 2 since every game involves 2 teams. That's 600 games per season. From 1960 - 2013 is 53 years. 600 x 53 = 31,800 games. Your team pulled off something that (conservatively estimated) has happened once in nearly 32,000 games.
Maybe it wasn't lucky. Maybe it was. One thing for sure, it's much rarer than the Hail Mary against UGA that you admit was luck.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:57 pm to AU24
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If you don't think Gus is a good coach how do you explain the 2 wins over Saban the SEC Championship and him winning the WEST 2 times in just 5 years? Do you think the Auburn program is just so talent rich that the talent overcomes Gus's coaching?
Didn't Chizik win a National Championship?
Sure, he had a great first year. Since then he has averaged losing 5 games a year. Is that acceptable at Auburn, now?
5 losses a year average since his best year. Is the talent that bad or is his coaching that bad? You tell us.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:58 pm to bamasgot13
Luck, fluke, whatever you want to call it. It doesn't matter
Two acts of god kept Gus from his only non-4 loss season. And he still lost two other games that year.
Two acts of god kept Gus from his only non-4 loss season. And he still lost two other games that year.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:01 pm to WG_Dawg
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12-2
8-5
7-6
8-5
10-4
The record is the most damning part against Gus.
He doesn't get UGA and Bama at home. So if 2018 has 5 losses, he will have a 66% win percentage at Auburn. A 62% win percentage the past 4 years. Possibly a 30% win percentage against Bama and UGA.
I know that I am jumping the gun. Auburn might not lose both games @ UGA and @Bama. After all, he was expected to lose both games at home in 2017 but won. But he doesn't have a great track record on the road. Average loss at Sanford for Gus is 23-7 final score. The average loss in Tuscaloosa is 42- 28 final score.
I personally think 2018 is a big year for Gus. He absolutely can pull off the upsets against Bama and UGA just like 2017. But if he doesnt, I wouldnt be shocked if his foundation is cracked and you see boo birds affect his ability to recruit.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:01 pm to AU24
What does he avg. 5 losses per year?
What's his biggest bowl victory?
What's his biggest bowl victory?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:05 pm to BarnHardU
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Where else did all this “luck” take place?
What would you say the odds of a kick 6 happening again? I mean a FG returned for a TD? I've never seen it happen before. maybe it has, but it's a rarity.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:06 pm to bamasgot13
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Only 4 times in college football since 1960 has a missed FG been returned for a TD. Only once has it happened on the final play of the game. It may not be lucky, but it damn sure is rare.
I think you are confusing "A good play" or even "a miricle ending" to Luck
They are not the same. The UGA game was a lucky bounce. No doubt. Hell, UGA was lucky to even be in that game. But the Bama play was not "Luck"
You just lost by one play. A very good play
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:07 pm to ArHog
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Bert is fat and beat Gus
He also completely derailed trajectory of y'all's football program
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:07 pm to DawgsLife
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What would you say the odds of a kick 6 happening again? I mean a FG returned for a TD? I've never seen it happen before. maybe it has, but it's a rarity.
I posted this a few posts above your question. You are right. It's extremely rare:
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Only 4 times in college football since 1960 has a missed FG been returned for a TD. Only once has it happened on the final play of the game. It may not be lucky, but it damn sure is rare. If 100 teams (conservative) play an average of 12 games a season that's 1,200 games. Divide by 2 since every game involves 2 teams. That's 600 games per season. From 1960 - 2013 is 53 years. 600 x 53 = 31,800 games. Your team pulled off something that (conservatively estimated) has happened once in nearly 32,000 games.
How Rare Is A Missed FG Returned for a TD in College?
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:15 pm to AU24
I think Gus is a good coach. Everyone has caught up with what he was doing offensively, but he has still managed to have some good years. I'm not sure if he will ever be anything more than what he is right now, but I don't think there is anything wrong with that.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:16 pm to bamasgot13
The question on the table, do you or do you not think GusBus is a good coach.
In my eyes he is the best 4-5 loss coach in college football today.
In my eyes he is the best 4-5 loss coach in college football today.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:20 pm to bamasgot13
I saw your post after I made my post.
hey, I'll give them credit for the play against us. Ricardo Louis stayed with the play and was in position. It was still a highly unlikely play.
The kick 6? That is so rare. They can play with semantics all they want....luck and rare. But fact is, if those two highly unlikely plays had not happened (and in the same year, yet) Gus would have had 4 losses that year, too.
hey, I'll give them credit for the play against us. Ricardo Louis stayed with the play and was in position. It was still a highly unlikely play.
The kick 6? That is so rare. They can play with semantics all they want....luck and rare. But fact is, if those two highly unlikely plays had not happened (and in the same year, yet) Gus would have had 4 losses that year, too.
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