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re: Question for all SEC fans: Are you having trouble with football attendance?

Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:35 am to
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:35 am to
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Yes. Every school is having the same problem.



Speak for yourself brah. 3 home games and 3 sellouts. They may leave early but they do show up.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:36 am to
ECON 101 material: seriously ADs, it's not that difficult

Demand curve has shifted down due to improvement in television and other technologies, rising costs of attendance, and other various factors.

Supply curve has remained constant.

When the demand curve shifts downward, it's supposed to be followed by a decrease in price which isn't happening (quantity can't be decreased because it's not really possible to do so). The combined prices of tickets, concessions, parking, and the inconvenience (opportunity costs of attending have a far greater marginal cost than marginal benefit for most people).

It's not that difficult- lower prices or it's going to continue to get worse
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:36 am to
people have less disposable income than they did 10 years ago... season tickets, travel, hotels, food/entertainment, etc... stuff is expensive.

I make it to one or two AU games a year... anything beyond that is too much for us... I also like to watch other games and not have my entire weekend tied down to one event.
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:39 am to
I'll give it to USCe - you guys are some hard core fans. That's one reason why it's hard to dislike you guys - the fans have paid the price
Posted by JordonfortheJ
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:42 am to
It could always be worse
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:42 am to
Tickets are ridiculous.

Mizzou game versus UF, average tickets are about $200 per. I don't mind dropping $100 for a ticket, but tell me to spend $500 for me and my kid to go to the game and I'll find some other place to spend $500.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:42 am to
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ECON 101 material


But the tickets are for the most part being sold aren't they? Seems like it is more of an attendance problem than a ticket sales problem so it might not be as simple as ECON 101. A lot of times tickets are being bought but not used. It's weird - people are actually buying tickets and still deciding that it's not worth it to go to games in lieu of watching on tv, tailgaiting, etc.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:43 am to
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ECON 101 material: seriously ADs, it's not that difficult

Demand curve has shifted down due to improvement in television and other technologies, rising costs of attendance, and other various factors.

Supply curve has remained constant.

When the demand curve shifts downward, it's supposed to be followed by a decrease in price which isn't happening (quantity can't be decreased because it's not really possible to do so). The combined prices of tickets, concessions, parking, and the inconvenience (opportunity costs of attending have a far greater marginal cost than marginal benefit for most people).

It's not that difficult- lower prices or it's going to continue to get worse


This sounds good, but Bama's AD already gets the revenue on the front end. Season tickets are sold out and there's a waiting list a mile long. Their supply is meeting their demand. It's what happens with those tickets once they're in the hands of the purchaser that is the problem, and the AD has no power over that.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:43 am to
Whats crazy is that this trend is continuing while the stadiums are expanding.....
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:44 am to
quote:

ECON 101 material: seriously ADs, it's not that difficult

Demand curve has shifted down due to improvement in television and other technologies, rising costs of attendance, and other various factors.

Supply curve has remained constant.

When the demand curve shifts downward, it's supposed to be followed by a decrease in price which isn't happening (quantity can't be decreased because it's not really possible to do so). The combined prices of tickets, concessions, parking, and the inconvenience (opportunity costs of attending have a far greater marginal cost than marginal benefit for most people).

It's not that difficult- lower prices or it's going to continue to get worse


100% agree, but its the secondary market thats out of control. I used to have season tickets to A&M games. I would sell my 2 seats to the best games and get fully reimbursed for the season. Id go to the other 6 games for free.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34964 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:45 am to
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Whats crazy is that this trend is continuing while the stadiums are expanding.....


Luckily quidditch is on the rise so we'll still get some use out of them.
Posted by The Calvin
Member since Jun 2013
5240 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Question for all SEC fans: Are you having trouble with football attendance?


Oh man



Gumps gonna be on this like permanent markers on infants during Bama fan day
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:46 am to
You make some good points Bird.

I would also say that the culture of having all college games on Tv is a recent one, relatively speaking. It's new territory, and the rules haven't been figured out yet. 30 years ago the only team on Tv consistently was Notre Dame, and they were able to recruit nationally for this reason. If you went to Notre Dame you could be on national television.

You had big stadiums because for most people that was the only way to actually see their team play. Now that every game is on Tv, you can no longer justify a 100,000 seat stadium with tickets at $60 for the nosebleeds. It's simply outdated.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:46 am to
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It's weird - people are actually buying tickets and still deciding that it's not worth it to go to games in lieu of watching on tv, tailgaiting, etc.


Demand doesn't entail only ticket prices, but the opportunity costs of attending games which is essentially what do you give up to go to a game? The answer is time and money, and lots of both. The tickets themselves aren't that much- it's just a combination of everything else.

I suggest the ADs solve this by figuring out a better parking option. I think parking is truly the root of all of this.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:46 am to
HAHAHAHA and they announced 42K at that TCU game too
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:46 am to
Hasn't been a problem for A&M yet, but after the stadium is finished and we have a down year, I am sure we'll have games with plenty of empty seats.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1760 posts
Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:48 am to
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Hasn't been a problem for A&M yet, but after the stadium is finished and we have a down year, I am sure we'll have games with plenty of empty seats.


Meh we were for the most part filling up the stands while getting blasted by 50 points. As our enrollment (and tshirt fan base) goes up, there will be plenty of people willing to go to games.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:49 am to
More to do with who in the frick would want to watch Florida in person?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:50 am to
quote:

Are you having trouble with football attendance?


No, I am not having trouble.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/15/13 at 11:50 am to
I can say with certainty that seeing an opposing team come in your stadium and not scoring a point is quite satisfying and worth every penny
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