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re: Question about defense for experts and football efficianados
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:31 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:31 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
Not really if you actually think about what i said Gump. I have watched all of UGA's games and haven't seen an elite pass rush/dline nor secondary. Just been seeing opponents beat themselves more time than not on offense. And that's why the stats look like that.
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Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:39 am to BigPaintedInOrange
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Gump. I have watched all of UGA's games and haven't seen an elite pass rush/dline nor secondary. Just been seeing opponents beat themselves more time than not on offense. And that's why the stats look like that.
Hey watch out a UGA fan on here just broke down film for 4 paragraphs over a simple comment I said about their pass rush being less effective as their 2021 team. He then assured me that beating Florida in Jacksonville would guarantee he’s correct about his specific assessment. God knows how much film he’s going to watch to come after you. You’ve been warned
Posted on 9/20/22 at 6:37 am to FireDanMullen
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You have a great team, congratulations. Here’s one for ya; you’re going to beat our arse in Jacksonville lol. We suck this year.
This warms my heart
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:56 am to TouchdownTony
Last year the only time UGA was threatened was when there was an elite WR and elite QB. Don’t know if there’s anything like that on their schedule this year.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 8:00 am to FireDanMullen
quote:It was already talked about, but you aren’t going to get many sacks on QBs that get rid of the ball in 2.5 seconds, no matter how great your pass rush is.
FireDanMullen
The proof is in the pudding. We have given up 10 points over 3 games (7 of which came in the last minute of the game against our 2’s and 3’s). That’s not easy to do even if you played 3 cupcakes over that span. As a UGA fan, I’ve seen my share of Richt-coached teams struggle with cupcakes.
Our defense is affecting the QB, causing throwaways and bad decisions leading to INTs. If they keep holding teams to 7 points or less, I don’t care how they do it.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 8:02 am
Posted on 9/20/22 at 8:03 am to TheBiggestBrother
quote:Ever heard of Todd Grantham? We lived through the “third-and-Grantham” years.
All I know is that Kirby has always had the worst third and long defense in all the football.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 8:12 am to FooManChoo
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It was already talked about, but you aren’t going to get many sacks on QBs that get rid of the ball in 2.5 seconds, no matter how great your pass rush is.
It wasn't just a quick game with South Carolina. Spencer Rattler was back peddling all game. He was afraid to stay at his launch point. He had about 10 throw aways and 2 interceptions and a half dozen other poor throws because he was falling away 2 to 4 yards beyond his dropback.
He isn't a great QB. He may not be a good QB. But he played like he was afraid (Doty came in and didn't have that fear in the pocket, fwiw).
Posted on 9/20/22 at 8:16 am to FireDanMullen
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He then assured me that beating Florida in Jacksonville would guarantee he’s correct about his specific assessment
I don't expect you to know how the South Carolina QB played in week 3.
I do expect you to watch your own QB in WLOCP. You can let me know then if the UGA DL and LBs win their one on ones at the line of scrimmage.
I say that they do.
You say that they don't.
We will see who can make an honest assessment in October when you finally pay attention to UGA because it is in your face.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:01 am to skrayper
Tennessee has the highest graded QB in the SEC and the best WR corps in the nation. If Hooker starts off hot against them it's a tight ballgame.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:02 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
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Tactically, how is this possible and what sort of voodoo is this?
have you watched the games? If you have, then you'll know.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:07 am to BigPaintedInOrange
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Tennessee has the highest graded QB in the SEC and the best WR corps in the nation.
You've hardly faced a murderer's row of pass defenses. Probably want to face a secondary with a pulse before declaring yourselves kings of the passing world.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 9:16 am to TouchdownTony
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With the RPO's and 3 step drops, sacks are becoming more rare.
On UGA's point, contrary to many they are not all-out up the field defense. They are very disciplined and play the read and react. They can do this because they have superior athletes and can see what's happening and then make a play. Its a defensive style that if you have the players you can not score on it.
No many sacks because the first job is to contain the run, don't over run the play and let the RB or QB outside, the line gets into the pass lanes and the DB's cover their zones as good as anybody I've seen college or pro.
I miss this sonofabitch being at Alabama.
Very smart post.
At the end of the day, keeping the other team from scoring is the objective. Who gives a shite if the defense gets a sack or not in the process of forcing a punt.
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 9:19 am
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:42 am to meansonny
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I do expect you to watch your own QB in WLOCP. You can let me know then if the UGA DL and LBs win their one on ones at the line of scrimmage. I say that they do. You say that they don't.
Lol. I didn’t say that dipshit. I said your pass rush wasn’t as effective as last season from what we’ve seen. Way to just continue to move the goal posts. The stats back me up. You had 7 sacks against Clemson. You have 1 in 3 games. End of story. You can go back to jerking off to highlights now.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 10:46 am to FooManChoo
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Our defense is affecting the QB, causing throwaways and bad decisions leading to INTs. If they keep holding teams to 7 points or less, I don’t care how they do it.
Yep. Go ahead and read my original post. It says this exact thing. The defense is still very good, just doesn’t have the pass rush it had last year. I have a Georgia fan trying to convince me this team is as effective at rushing the QB as the 2021 version. It’s a different defense that is still very good but I think some of y’all have so much PTSD from years of coming up short that dealing with a simple critique of your pass rush has y’all gripping your pearls.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:32 am to BigPaintedInOrange
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Tennessee has the highest graded QB in the SEC and the best WR corps in the nation. If Hooker starts off hot against them it's a tight ballgame.
The question is... will UGA's defense let Hooker start "hot".
The reality is that UGA is better than Pitt on both sides of the ball... and UT allowed 27 points against Pitt while scoring 27 in regulation. UGA is likely going to get to the upper 30's and I don't think UT can match that. I'm expecting a 35-17 type result if both teams play at their normal level. UT could win if they played well and UGA played horribly... but if UGA plays solid I don't see UT having a chance.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:34 am to TheBiggestBrother
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All I know is that Kirby has always had the worst third and long defense in all the football
Did you stop watching football about 7 years ago?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:38 am to FireDanMullen
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Yep. Go ahead and read my original post. It says this exact thing. The defense is still very good, just doesn’t have the pass rush it had last year. I have a Georgia fan trying to convince me this team is as effective at rushing the QB as the 2021 version. It’s a different defense that is still very good but I think some of y’all have so much PTSD from years of coming up short that dealing with a simple critique of your pass rush has y’all gripping your pearls.
I honestly don't see a huge difference in the pass rush. Teams just seem (so far at least) to be afraid to throw the ball down the field, instead getting rid of the ball as quickly as possible.
UGA is still collapsing pockets while not abandoning contain just like they always do. But those don't result in sacks unless the opposing QB holds the ball long enough. For UGA, holding contain is more important than getting a sack... and that was true last year too. Teams just tried to go downfield more last year. This year (so far) they kind of aren't trying that much.
I will say UGA has sent a lot fewer blitzes this year, instead just letting the 3 down linemen and one rushing LB provide pressure. I rarely see 5 rushing the passer this season, they're dropping the 5th guy back in coverage much more often because the 4 rushers are making the QB's throw quickly.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:18 pm to DawginSC
I would venture to offer that our back 7 is blanketing opposing teams receivers, thus allowing us to blitz less but still forcing the QB to throw away the ball or make errant throws which leads to picks.
However we do it, I just want to score more points than the opposition every Saturday..
However we do it, I just want to score more points than the opposition every Saturday..
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:25 pm to russellvillehog
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they literally had scored like 3 or 6 like just before half,
Actually they had 9 points at the half, and it was 35-24 well into the 4th quarter, so it never got so out of hand that Arkansas was fully substituting.
I'm not making a case for South Carolina, but it would seem odd for an Arkansas fan to insinuate SC scored their points after the game was out of hand.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:26 pm to Sgt Tuffnuts
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Georgia's defense also is dead last nationally in sacks and 88th in tackles for loss.
Tactically, how is this possible and what sort of voodoo is this?
I'd imagine they're at or near the top in fewest plays against in the country. You're not going to be high on a lot of volume stats like TFL/sacks if teams don't run many plays against you.
ETA: Georgia has allowed the 9th fewest plays per game at 58 per game
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 12:30 pm
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