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Posted on 9/19/22 at 5:52 am to meansonny
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You haven't watched UGA.
Safeties have 4 INTs so far. 2 for the freshman Malaki Starks.
I watched the Oregon game. I also said they haven't faced an accurate qb. Have they? I know Smart's defensive strategies and I know the weaknesses in them because he was our defensive coordinator for a long time. He blitzes a lot and it is a gamble he takes. He is betting that your qb isn't accurate enough to make enough plays to beat him deep. And if you do go deep, you won;t have much time. And he is almost always right about it too. I am sorry if it offends you that I am pointing out weaknesses but every strategy has them, even Smart's.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 5:53 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 6:27 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
Idk, but Rattler had a ton of throw aways, so I don’t feel like pressure been an issue. Also, teams have obviously gotten way behind quickly and stopped running the ball, which makes TFLs harder to come by.
UGA also isn’t as good as last year in the front 7.
UGA also isn’t as good as last year in the front 7.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 6:38 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 6:40 am to meansonny
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South Carolina doesn't have a good offense but they did score 30 on Arkansas.
they literally had scored like 3 or 6 like just before half, and then suddenly the penalties for "hands in the face" when the linemen hands were on jersey #s, or PI when our DBs literally jumped 3 foot higher than their WRs and as they knocked the ball away their hand would touch the wrs shoulder. so many bs calls just started pouring in for the rest of the game on every 3rd down stop. it was so fricking bizarre. they should have never scored anywhere near that if you actually watched the game.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 6:52 am to viceman
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He blitzes a lot and it is a gamble he takes.
We really haven't needed to so far. And has been pointed out, blitzing when the qb is releasing the ball at 2.5 seconds or less is pretty dumb.
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And if you do go deep, you won;t have much time.
This is where our opponents are at. Our stunts alone or bull rushes have gotten in QBs faces on pass drops and have been effecting the QB.
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I am sorry if it offends you that I am pointing out weaknesses but every strategy has them, even Smart's.
I'm pointing out that Kirbys defense has changed every 2 years to the strengths of the team. It is lazy for bammers to assume that the defensive philosophy is stagnant.
We were a completely different defense in '17 than we were in '20, '21. And we are very different now. We played more zone in '21 than ever before and we are playing more zone than that so far this season (4 picks for safeties.. another at linebacker. Most of those with eyes on the qb the entire time)
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:02 am to russellvillehog
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they literally had scored like 3 or 6 like just before half, and then suddenly the penalties for "hands in the face" when the linemen hands were on jersey #s, or PI when our DBs literally jumped 3 foot higher than their WRs and as they knocked the ball away their hand would touch the wrs shoulder. so many bs calls just started pouring in for the rest of the game on every 3rd down stop. it was so fricking bizarre. they should have never scored anywhere near that if you actually watched the game.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
The point was about the narrative before the UGA game with regards to Spencer rattler hitting big plays. One of the nerds had South Carolina at 23 points. Summer of George had them at 20+ I think.
It was the same in 2021. Every QB brought a challenge. And every time our defense stepped up. After the game? That QB sucks. You haven't played anyone yet. And then the next week's opponent brought a challenge. Rinse and repeat.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:11 am to meansonny
I mean I wasn't saying I didn't think UGA didn't have the best D I've seen this year, but I wanted to dispell the myth that rattler was actually good, or South car was actually a good offense. going into the 4th qtr rattler had like 180 passing yards, and a low cmp %. then the 4th qtr lasted like 1.5 hours, and I think our injured/thin secondary just got tired being in the heat that long, and they were throwing desperation passes, and they were hitting.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 7:29 am to BigPaintedInOrange
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It means they have only beat shitty arse offenses so far. Did you not watch the SC game? And Oregon is a soft finesse team.
This is true but will get down-voted. Lot of Dawg fans on this board these days.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 8:23 am to russellvillehog
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mean I wasn't saying I didn't think UGA didn't have the best D I've seen this year, but I wanted to dispell the myth that rattler was actually good, or South car was actually a good offense. going into the 4th qtr rattler had like 180 passing yards, and a low cmp %. then the 4th qtr lasted like 1.5 hours, and I think our injured/thin secondary just got tired being in the heat that long, and they were throwing desperation passes, and they were hitting.
It was the same last year.
We are facing kj Jefferson. We haven't seen anything like him.
After stomping arkansas' offense, the next week was Bo Nix and how he hadn't thrown a pick in 8 games or so to 13+ TD).
After stomping Bo, the narrative is that he sucks. We now have to face undefeated Kentucky and their new offense led by Levis.
We stomp Kentucky so they suck.
But we have to face the best GameDay playcalling QB whisperer in Dan Mullen.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:17 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
Their defense is still very good but lacks the elite 1st round talent pass rushers they had last season. They’ve had good defenses under Kirby - lasts season’s was their best unit ever.
Their defense looks similar to their 2018-2020 that were good but got exposed by elite offenses. Although this defense probably has more overall talent from recruiting classes.
Their defense looks similar to their 2018-2020 that were good but got exposed by elite offenses. Although this defense probably has more overall talent from recruiting classes.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:22 am to BigPaintedInOrange
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It means they have only beat shitty arse offenses so far. Did you not watch the SC game? And Oregon is a soft finesse team.
Who has played good teams? It’s week 4. No one knows who is good yet
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:22 am to FireDanMullen
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Their defense is still very good but lacks the elite 1st round talent pass rushers they had last season. They’ve had good defenses under Kirby - lasts season’s was their best unit ever.
Last year's defense was also monikered as the No Name Defense.
Jalen Carter, Mykel Williams, Nolan Smith, Smael Mondon, and Xavian Sorey are living in the backfield.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:25 am to meansonny
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Last year's defense was also monikered as the No Name Defense. Jalen Carter, Mykel Williams, Nolan Smith, Smael Mondon, and Xavian Sorey are living in the backfield.
I think my assessment is an overall accurate one. Y’all have very good players but aren’t rushing the passer at the same level you were last season. I think that’s an extremely fair think to say. I wouldn’t be shocked to have some UGA fans flip out over that tho lol
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:37 am to FireDanMullen
Lol
OK. Offenses haven't changed how they play us. They try the same things that they do against every other opponent.. We just lack pass rush talent and coaching.
See you in Jax
OK. Offenses haven't changed how they play us. They try the same things that they do against every other opponent.. We just lack pass rush talent and coaching.
See you in Jax
Posted on 9/19/22 at 9:38 am to TheBiggestBrother
quote:Lol wut?
All I know is that Kirby has always had the worst third and long defense in all the football.
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Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:08 am to Sgt Tuffnuts
With the RPO's and 3 step drops, sacks are becoming more rare.
On UGA's point, contrary to many they are not all-out up the field defense. They are very disciplined and play the read and react. They can do this because they have superior athletes and can see what's happening and then make a play. Its a defensive style that if you have the players you can not score on it.
No many sacks because the first job is to contain the run, don't over run the play and let the RB or QB outside, the line gets into the pass lanes and the DB's cover their zones as good as anybody I've seen college or pro.
I miss this sonofabitch being at Alabama.
On UGA's point, contrary to many they are not all-out up the field defense. They are very disciplined and play the read and react. They can do this because they have superior athletes and can see what's happening and then make a play. Its a defensive style that if you have the players you can not score on it.
No many sacks because the first job is to contain the run, don't over run the play and let the RB or QB outside, the line gets into the pass lanes and the DB's cover their zones as good as anybody I've seen college or pro.
I miss this sonofabitch being at Alabama.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 10:21 pm to FireDanMullen
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I think my assessment is an overall accurate one. Y’all have very good players but aren’t rushing the passer at the same level you were last season. I think that’s an extremely fair think to say. I wouldn’t be shocked to have some UGA fans flip out over that tho lol
I just caught the stat to support what I see.
Spencer Rattler was pressured on 47% of his drop back passes.
And that's with a reliance on 4 man pass rush (stunts, zone blitz, and 2 gap bull rush).
It was comical in game, really.
Rattler was backpedalling on almost all of his drop backs (7 yard launch point behind the line of scrimmage had a throwaway out of bounds 12-14 yards behind the line). Rattler was in retreat mode all game (contributing to his 52% completion percentage and 4.7 ypa).
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:28 pm to meansonny
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Spencer Rattler was pressured on 47% of his drop back passes. And that's with a reliance on 4 man pass rush (stunts, zone blitz, and 2 gap bull rush). It was comical in game, really. Rattler was backpedalling on almost all of his drop backs (7 yard launch point behind the line of scrimmage had a throwaway out of bounds 12-14 yards behind the line). Rattler was in retreat mode all game (contributing to his 52% completion percentage and 4.7 ypa).
Yeah and Arkansas sacked that same team 6 times. Thanks for the advance stats though. South Carolina is absolutely dog shite too. This in no way invalidates my previous statement saying you’ve dropped off in pass rush. You cannot convince me you guys are the same pass rushing team as last season bc you just jerked off to a bunch of in-depth stats after watching YouTube highlights of the game. It’s also the 3rd game of the year. Give it a rest and let the season play out.
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Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:57 pm to FireDanMullen
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You cannot convince me you guys are the same pass rushing team as last season
We are different than last season.
We don't have Jordan Davis. Never will again. He directed the majority of double teams last year. This year, it is Jalen Carter.
But our pass rush is having equal success with different pieces.
True freshman Mykel Williams is Travon Walkers body with Azeez Ojulari's pass rush moves. He is leading the team in QB hurries. Jalen Carter is Jalen Carter (the best player off of last year's DL). Nolan Smith is pressuring.
And we still are zone blitzing the A gaps. We literally have 3 new ILB equally as effective as last year's crew at rushing the passer (they are still working on run fits... especially without Jordan Davis to keep them clean).
I'm not going to convince you anything. You have made up your mind. JAX will convince you. I don't have a doubt about that.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 12:24 am to meansonny
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I'm not going to convince you anything. You have made up your mind. JAX will convince you. I don't have a doubt about that.
Congrats man. You’ve taken the mantle from these Gumps fans as worst fans in sports. A truly tall feat. Your pass rush isn’t as effective as last year. Your stats show it dipshit. You have 1 against shitty competition in 3 games. You had like 6 against Clemson last year lol. This is an absurd hill for you to die on. But I’m not surprised. A lifetime of underachieving has clearly fricked your ability to take a simple critique about your team. Holy shite bro go take a hike.
You have a great team, congratulations. Here’s one for ya; you’re going to beat our arse in Jacksonville lol. We suck this year. How that has anything to do with me saying y’all’s pass rush has taken a step back is clearly astounding. Years of finishing as the bride’s maid has completely fricked your head up. Get back to your advance stats and jerking off to highlights, describing stunts and A gap blitzes, and pretending you’re a grad assistant lol. You have one of the best coaches in the game and your team is good - it doesn’t make you a savant whatsoever — you’re still wrong and you’re still a total jackass lol.
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