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re: Quality Wins Should Be the #1 Playoff Factor
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:25 pm to DawginSC
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:25 pm to DawginSC
Texas and Tennessee were easy to compare imo..
Both lost to Georgia by 14/15
Six other comparable games
Texas 6-0 +115 Margin
TN 5-1 +53 Margin
52 / 6 = 8.7 ppg difference
That’s a big sample size.
Sure, Tennessee beat Alabama, but Texas beat Texas A&M and Michigan. Not quite as good as Alabama, but not far behind.
It’s an easy comparison imo.
Texas and Ohio State is much harder as they only have a 1 common opponent. Texas beat Michigan on the road, OSU lost to UM at home, but OSU has multiple good quality wins.
Bottom line.. there isn’t a way to compare teams like that with 1 common opponent.. and therefore it’s one reason I like an expanded playoff.
Get rid of the SEC CG and settle it on the field.
Both lost to Georgia by 14/15
Six other comparable games
Texas 6-0 +115 Margin
TN 5-1 +53 Margin
52 / 6 = 8.7 ppg difference
That’s a big sample size.
Sure, Tennessee beat Alabama, but Texas beat Texas A&M and Michigan. Not quite as good as Alabama, but not far behind.
It’s an easy comparison imo.
Texas and Ohio State is much harder as they only have a 1 common opponent. Texas beat Michigan on the road, OSU lost to UM at home, but OSU has multiple good quality wins.
Bottom line.. there isn’t a way to compare teams like that with 1 common opponent.. and therefore it’s one reason I like an expanded playoff.
Get rid of the SEC CG and settle it on the field.
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:26 pm to LRB1967
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:33 pm to Rhino5
Not fair since Ole Miss and bama were neck in neck it that category lolol
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:35 pm to REBEL5 AC
I agree with what he said as well.. but there is a big difference between Texas and Indiana for example.. but you can’t tell that by the schedule this year.. so how do you decide between those teams?
Not having a ranked win doesn’t make a team good or bad.. it means you don’t know without other factors.. so how do you figure that out?
Everyone and their mother knows Ole Miss, SC and Alabama would be favored against Indiana and SMU.. but how do you pick those teams with bad losses?
You are damned if you do.. damned if you don’t.. with one exception..
Those teams lost to bad opponents and had multiple opportunities to fix the problem.. There isn’t an easy solution.. perhaps play in games instead of CCG’s
Not having a ranked win doesn’t make a team good or bad.. it means you don’t know without other factors.. so how do you figure that out?
Everyone and their mother knows Ole Miss, SC and Alabama would be favored against Indiana and SMU.. but how do you pick those teams with bad losses?
You are damned if you do.. damned if you don’t.. with one exception..
Those teams lost to bad opponents and had multiple opportunities to fix the problem.. There isn’t an easy solution.. perhaps play in games instead of CCG’s
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:42 pm to REBEL5 AC
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Quality wins > everything.
All teams should be playing more consistently throughout the regular season.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:56 pm to REBEL5 AC
Stop losing to Kentucky and stop the melt.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:20 pm to TrueLefty
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All teams should be playing more consistently throughout the regular season.
10 game SEC schedule
+ 1 P4 Game
+ 1 G5 Game
That should be the requirement. Most problems get solved that way.
All rivalries intact with division play and balanced scheduling..
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:32 am to REBEL5 AC
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Teams that have proven they can win against playoff teams and lost 3 one score games > teams that haven’t proven they can beat a playoff caliber team and avoided losing to mid/lower level opponents
no, college football has never been about who can win one game.
it's about who can navigate from Labor Day through the end of the season.
a loss to a shitty team should be every bit as detrimental as a quality win is a boost.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:41 am to Landmass
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The 12 best teams would include Ole Miss, Alabama, and South Carolina. I think the playoff should include the 12 best teams and get rid of the auto bids.
ROFLMFAO
Nah.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:43 am to REBEL5 AC
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Bama. Ole Miss. Miami. All got robbed over these bum teams. A 12 team playoff should be competitive from top to bottom.
No they didn’t and none of those teams would have done any better than the teams that actually got in. If these were “good teams” they would t have lost to bad opponents.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:43 am to REBEL5 AC
5 of your 9 wins were literal cupcakes. 4 of those are basically FCA. All 5 if you include us. There are FCA teams we couldn't beat this year. Then you proceeded to lose to KY, LSU, and UF. GTFO with that crap. If you played a real schedule, you'd have been 8-4, or more likely 7-5, because Lane is gonna Lane.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:44 am to BigBro
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Everyone and their mother knows Ole Miss, SC and Alabama would be favored against Indiana and SMU.. but how do you pick those teams with bad losses?
Why not just let Vegas figure it out
Get an overall composite betting average for each team against the field and take the highest 12
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:51 am to FriedEggBowL
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5 of your 9 wins were literal cupcakes. 4 of those are basically FCA. All 5 if you include us. There are FCA teams we couldn't beat this year. Then you proceeded to lose to KY, LSU, and UF. GTFO with that crap. If you played a real schedule, you'd have been 8-4, or more likely 7-5, because Lane is gonna Lane.
You got to understand that “this was their year”. This was the best chance they will have at making the playoffs. That’s why they have to come in here and do all these mental gymnastics to try and convince themselves that they somehow got robbed.
The thing is, they would have taken the same beat down that the teams that got in took from ND, Ohio State, and Penn. They didn’t have any better chance at beating them than Indiana or SMU had. FACT!
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:52 am to REBEL5 AC
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You do and I’m glad I’m not a fan of someone still stuck in 2015 daydreaming over a fluke play that kept a team from the SECCG
Says the guy stuck in the 60's daydreaming over what it was like before integration
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:32 am to REBEL5 AC
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Quality wins > everything.
So, Oklahoma should be in the playoffs?
Kentucky?
They had some quality wins.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:54 am to REBEL5 AC
South Carolina, Alabama, Miami all had legit arguments.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:33 am to gamecockman12
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South Carolina, Alabama, had legit arguments.
when teams with 3 losses have "legit arguments", you have too many teams in the playoffs.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:43 am to REBEL5 AC
quote:and crappy losses should both be considered.
Quality Wins Should Be the #1 Playoff Factor
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:55 am to gamecockman12
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South Carolina, Alabama, Miami all had legit arguments.
No. No they didn’t.
None of those teams would have done any better had they played this weekend. They all would have lost to ND, Penn, or Ohio State.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:19 am to BigBro
What was our bad loss? All of ours were ranked at the time of the game.
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