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re: Quality Wins Should Be the #1 Playoff Factor

Posted on 12/21/24 at 4:35 pm to
Posted by REBEL5 AC
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 4:35 pm to
More than SMU and Indiana, yes.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 4:44 pm to
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I never said it’s the only factor. The common factor of the two first games is both teams blow did and had zero quality wins without being undefeated.


I didn't say you did. But I asked about quality wins because some have different opinions on this board. However, I don't care that Team A had two wins over teams that finished the year in the top 25.... if they lost two games to shite teams. I don’t care that Team B played a top 10 SOS but finished sub-par.

Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 5:05 pm to
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Quality Wins Should Be the #1 Playoff Factor


It should be important, how well a team travels has to be considered too though! ;)
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
4519 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 6:50 pm to
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Hell... LSU be USCe and Ole Miss, so are those quality wins?

8-4.
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
15785 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 3:13 pm to
lol how’d that work out?
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 4:01 pm to
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Quality Wins Should Be the #1 Playoff Factor


Eliminates ole piss from this conversation.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
9660 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 4:07 pm to
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The 12 best teams would include Ole Miss, Alabama, and South Carolina.


the “best 12 teams” don’t lose to the shitty teams on their schedule.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
43757 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 4:08 pm to
You have no clue who will be good when scheduling. No one expected FSU to tank this year.
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
15785 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 5:25 pm to
You already failed in this thread. Don’t do it again.
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
15785 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 5:28 pm to
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the “best 12 teams” don’t lose to the shitty teams on their schedule.


Teams that have proven they can win against playoff teams and lost 3 one score games > teams that haven’t proven they can beat a playoff caliber team and avoided losing to mid/lower level opponents
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17357 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 5:40 pm to
Texas beat Michigan
Michigan beat Ohio State

Texas beat Oklahoma
Oklahoma beat Alabama

Texas beat Kentucky
Kentucky beat Ole Miss

Texas beat Florida
Florida beat LSU, Ole Miss

Texas beat Texas A&M
Texas A&M beat Missouri

Texas beat Arkansas
Arkansas beat Tennessee

Texas beat Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt beat Alabama

But yet, Texas hadn’t beat a ranked team..

Michigan won the NC last year, but they aren’t ranked this year..

You can’t control the teams sucking on your schedule..

Eta: Kirby is 53-4 since 2021 with 2 NC, a good chance at a 3rd this year, and probably would have won last year if they made the playoff.. so it isn’t just “some playoff team” Texas lost to.,
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 5:45 pm
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:29 pm to
Negative.

Bama would not have done any better than the teams that lost this weekend. They just aren’t a good team.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:32 pm to
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Teams that have proven they can win against playoff teams and lost 3 one score games > teams that haven’t proven they can beat a playoff caliber team and avoided losing to mid/lower level opponents


So I guess Vandy or Oklahoma should have been in the playoffs then. You know…. Since being able to get A quality win is all that should matter.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14364 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:35 pm to
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8-4.


Is not any worse than 9-3 when two of those 3 losses were to Vandy and Oklahoma and the 3rd to apparently a very “meh” Tennessee
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
21979 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:38 pm to
Same wins and losses against common opponents....and LSU has ole piss on the head-to-head.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:58 pm to
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But yet, Texas hadn’t beat a ranked team..


They hadn't. Not sure why this still causes you confusion.

And while transitive chains are nice, they also work in reverse.

Alabama beat UGA who beat Texas.
Ole Miss beat UGA who beat Texas.

But, bad losses need to count as much as big wins count. Texas had no big wins before this past weekend. But they had no bad (or even mediocre) losses.

It's wrong to think quality wins should be the primary factor.

Texas had one more win than Tennessee. They had one less quality win. They had one less bad loss. So having them a few spots ahead of Tennessee was completely appropriate.

If you just looked at quality wins, you might think Tennessee should have been ranked ahead of Texas. And that would not have been correct.


Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
4652 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 7:31 pm to
"Quality" wins within a conference that hardly plays anybody decent OOC should not.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
4519 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:18 pm to
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Is not any worse than 9-3 when two of those 3 losses were to Vandy and Oklahoma and the 3rd to apparently a very “meh” Tennessee

And yet 8-4.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:29 pm to
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Teams that have proven they can win against playoff teams and lost 3 one score games > teams that haven’t proven they can beat a playoff caliber team and avoided losing to mid/lower level opponents


Why do you think that's true?

Do you honestly think Texas would be better if they lost to Vandy but beat UGA?

I kind of think the loss to a scrub cancels out a win vs a good team.

Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
21124 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:31 pm to
By that logic Boise State should not even be in the playoffs
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