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re: Proposed 16 Team SEC
Posted on 3/28/13 at 5:36 pm to rtr14
Posted on 3/28/13 at 5:36 pm to rtr14
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I guess OKC and Tulsa are just a couple of one horse country towns then?
OKC and Tulsa would be the 7th and 8th largest cities in Texas. So maybe two horses?
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If the Oklahoma market is good enough for the NBA, it's good enough for the SEC.
NOLA has more TV sets than OKC -- so by your logic we should approach UNO, not OU. Heck, San Antonio has way more, and UT-San Antonio just added a football program...
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 5:41 pm
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Posted on 3/28/13 at 5:43 pm to HuggieBear
Vandy was a charter member of the SEC
Posted on 3/28/13 at 5:52 pm to Dore5674
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So Alabama is now dick riding Oklahoma?
No, but I'm from Oklahoma. Almost went to OU.
Accidentally hit enter. ETA:
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But I admit my bias against OU is mostly about taking TX players - I watched it all my life. We could fill up a few pages talking about all the OU greats from Texas. Hell, I'd rather they went to Texas than OU. Anything bad for OU is a positive for me
Guess they wanted to play on a winning team?
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Plus, I get that A&M isn't exactly "southeast", but Oklahoma? Might as well pull Oregon in.
I think with the addition of Missouri we kind threw geography out the window and focused on the money making instead.
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NOLA has more TV sets than OKC -- so by your logic we should approach UNO, not OU. Heck, San Antonio has way more, and UT-San Antonio just added a football program...
Now San Antonio having more TV sets than OKC and Tulsa is true, but not New Orleans. Tulsa has about 30,000 more people, and OKC is almost twice the size of NOLA. Besides we're talking about expanding the SEC's revenue. Oklahoma has a good market, and there aren't enough aTm or Arky fans in OK to say the SEC has an established presence there. By adding OU (and eventually OSU
) the SEC will have a great new market in Oklahoma along with the rest of the non-aggie DFW population.This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 3/28/13 at 5:53 pm to NWLATigerFan12
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GULF:
Auburn
Alabama
Miss State
Ole Miss
yes please....and I need my life time tickets to the NCG
Posted on 3/28/13 at 5:55 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Furthermore, their mouths are firmly attached to Bevo's nutless sack.
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Texas A&M Fan
Lol
Posted on 3/28/13 at 5:55 pm to finestfirst79
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But I admit my bias against OU is mostly about taking TX players - I watched it all my life. We could fill up a few pages talking about all the OU greats from Texas. Hell, I'd rather they went to Texas than OU. Anything bad for OU is a positive for me. Plus, I get that A&M isn't exactly "southeast", but Oklahoma? Might as well pull Oregon in.
That's why OU is on a down slope right now. The top Texas players aren't going to OU. And OU is not going anywhere without Oklahoma State.
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:02 pm to finestfirst79
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But I admit my bias against OU is mostly about taking TX players - I watched it all my life. We could fill up a few pages talking about all the OU greats from Texas. Hell, I'd rather they went to Texas than OU. Anything bad for OU is a positive for me. Plus, I get that A&M isn't exactly "southeast", but Oklahoma? Might as well pull Oregon in.
Why you mad though?
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:07 pm to dawgfan24348
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East
Georgia Florida North Carolina Duke South Carolina Vanderbilt Kentucky Tennessee
West
Alabama LSU Texas A&M Ole Miss Mississippi State Arkansas Oklahoma Auburn
Won't work.. you put all the basketball powerhouses in the West
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:17 pm to rtr14
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Not to mention all of the OU fans living in the DFW area.
frick that. There is that land stealing shite again.
In this round of conference realignment the name of the game is footprint in states, not where your alumni live or where you play 1-2 fricking games a year. Plus I doubt Okies actually control any significant part of the state outside of Wichita Falls.
DFW is fricking Texas, which means OU doesn't bring shite to the table there when it comes to a SEC Network. OU is a great program due to stealing Texas high school football players. Their recruiting success is built on a legacy of cheating and assholes.
But now A&M is representing the SEC in Texas, and OU's recent slide in recruiting to us is not a blip its a fricking trend. The table is turned and OU can't change things. OSU is an albatros because the state of Oklahoma isn't big enough to justify both being in the SEC.
North Carolina Population: 9,752,073
Virginia Population: 8,185,867
Missouri population: 6,021,988
Texas population: 26,059,203
Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown metro (so close to A&M) region’s population :6,139,797
Oklahoma population: a pathetic 3,814,820
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:21 pm to cardboardboxer
Not even to mention the fact that the cable deals for conference networks to this point get paid at least triple per subscriber for the states in which the conference has teams.
That's the driving force behind this whole thing.
It's also why the big prize schools like Florida State, Clemson, Miami, are potentially being allowed to go to the Big 12 where there is very little chance of a conference network forming.
That's the driving force behind this whole thing.
It's also why the big prize schools like Florida State, Clemson, Miami, are potentially being allowed to go to the Big 12 where there is very little chance of a conference network forming.
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:21 pm to dawgfan24348
Apart from the SEC East becoming the best basketball conference in America there are no positives to this. Why water down the football brand that makes the conference. Granted I never liked Mizzou being in the conference, they have brought absolutely nothing thus far replace them with somebody else.
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:25 pm to cardboardboxer
You have no idea what your talking about. If OKC is big enough of a market for the NBA, it's certainly big enough for the SEC. Oklahoma has a bigger winning tradition than every SEC school except for maybe Alabama and is one of the handful of elite programs in the NCAA. That's the trend. The amount of butthurt Aggies flaming OU in this thread is hilarious.
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:27 pm to rzd30
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Granted I never liked Mizzou being in the conference, they have brought absolutely nothing thus far replace them with somebody else.
At least $27,000,000 in potential annual revenue for the SEC Network besides what will be brought in for Tier 1 and 2 deals.
We'll figure the sports thing out soon enough. We've done it before.
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:34 pm to Ostrich
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The amount of butthurt Aggies flaming OU in this thread is hilarious.
Says the butthurt dirt burglar furiously defending his school and state's honor.
Daddy Dodds is calling, run home little land thief.
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:37 pm to rzd30
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Apart from the SEC East becoming the best basketball conference in America there are no positives to this. Why water down the football brand that makes the conference. Granted I never liked Mizzou being in the conference, they have brought absolutely nothing thus far replace them with somebody else.
You call making it to the NCAAt with only 2 returning players from last season, and kicked arse in COMO not bringing anything. How well do you think LSU would do with ONLY 2 players returning. LMFAO.
Football was bad, but not the worse in conference. Considering the demographics of some southern states compared to Missouri, you better be dominating in college football if you get my drift. Thank god for desegregation and letting anyone with a 2.0 into your school. Does LSU STILL let people transfer there with a minimum 2.0gpa..lol. I'm from Louisiana, I know what the education system is like down there. LSU recruits wouldn't be able to attend Mizzou as a regular student, that's a promise. Hell listen to some of the athletes during interviews.
Baseball sucks, but still not the worse in conference, people picked them to not win a game in conference.
They're doing good in Softball, will probably make the WCWS.
Held their own in Swimming and Diving.
Womens basketball sucked.
This post was edited on 3/28/13 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:42 pm to Ostrich
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If OKC is big enough of a market for the NBA, it's certainly big enough for the SEC.
You are missing the point. It is not how big your media markets are, it is how many potential cable subscribers are in your state. Which as shown above, is low compared to potential targets in North Carolina or Virginia. The NBA's stamp of approval has nothing to do with it.
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Oklahoma has a bigger winning tradition than every SEC school except for maybe Alabama and is one of the handful of elite programs in the NCAA. That's the trend.
Great. Whooptee fricking do.
You know what other programs nearby the SEC have crazy great traditions of success? Miami and FSU. And neither of them are getting in the SEC, because the SEC won't double down in a state.
Enjoy a decade of irrelevance in the Big 12. You best hope the LHN doesn't work out and T Boone doesn't live or that period will be lengthened.
Oh and 41-13.
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:42 pm to Ostrich
Jesus, there is NO impetus for the SEC to add this pathetic state of Oklahoma to its footprint. NONE. ZERO. NADA.
Jimmies Status:
[ ]: UNRUSTLED
[X]: RUSTLED*
*due to having to live in this shitty state for 2 more weeks before moving back to SEC country. Missouri. Yeah, MIZZOU is an upgrade over y'all
Jimmies Status:
[ ]: UNRUSTLED
[X]: RUSTLED*
*due to having to live in this shitty state for 2 more weeks before moving back to SEC country. Missouri. Yeah, MIZZOU is an upgrade over y'all
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:44 pm to cardboardboxer
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The NBA's stamp of approval has nothing to do with it.
Using this logic, Slive moves mountains to get UTSA into the SEC if they make the WCF this year
Slive doesn't give a frick what the NBA does
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:44 pm to dawgfan24348
No Oklahoma. No. No. Never. Never. No.
Posted on 3/28/13 at 6:44 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Missouri. Yeah, MIZZOU is an upgrade over y'all
Not to sound like a broken record here on the SECr, but Mizzou is a school and Missouri is a state.
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