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re: Predict Bo Nix’s stats vs UGA
Posted on 8/31/22 at 5:21 pm to meansonny
Posted on 8/31/22 at 5:21 pm to meansonny
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Obviously, playcalls will change the blocking schemes. I'm curious to see how often Carter gets doubled, how effective he is against the double, and if anyone else on the DL can take advantage.
I am more concerned with a player like Beal knowing our Oline. Our oline played best when Bass played at LT but he is a better guard.
We have two 330+ bookends. Georgia puts their beef on the interior.
Nolan doesn't seem to have a developed pass-rush set and is more of an edge setter.
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Posted on 8/31/22 at 5:30 pm to bisonduck
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I am more concerned with a player like Beal knowing our Oline. Our oline played best when Bass played at LT but he is a better guard
I definitely don't know your personnel as well as you know ours. A 247sports podcast questioned the size of one of your linemen (listed 6'2" and 295). The Podcaster is 6'2" and said the lineman may be just over 6 feet. He said he had a breakout game against tOSU last season but felt the size on our DL may be a problem (we are larger in most of our down linemen replacements. Outside of Carter and Nolan, I wonder if we are going to be significantly slower chasing QBs though).
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Nolan doesn't seem to have a developed pass-rush set and is more of an edge setter.
Nolan has an A plus move. And he will rack up "hustle/motor sacks". He doesn't have a counter on his move. Or at least he didn't last season. He has been very successful with a ghost technique. And he has been able to bullrush "college quality" tackles.
With this being his money year, we are expecting a better showing of counter moves. He got a draft grade last season, so he knows his area of improvement. He is a freak athlete (best sparq score at the opening as a recruit). But his length is not what NFL edge players show (height/wingspan).
I wouldn't be shocked to see him get a 1st round spot next draft. But most dawg fans are seeing day 2.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 5:54 pm to meansonny
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I definitely don't know your personnel as well as you know ours. A 247sports podcast questioned the size of one of your linemen (listed 6'2" and 295). The Podcaster is 6'2" and said the lineman may be just over 6 feet. He said he had a breakout game against tOSU last season but felt the size on our DL may be a problem (we are larger in most of our down linemen replacements. Outside of Carter and Nolan, I wonder if we are going to be significantly slower chasing QBs though).
Ryan Walk (RG) is small and I wouldn't be surprised if 6'2" is an embellishment. I have never stood next to him. I thought he'd get his assed kicked in by Haskell and Vincent from tOSU because they're big interior DL (more importantly were supposedly talented). Walk was an absolute stud. Oregon has a lot of options on the OL including at IOL. He's staving them off. Walk is never the weakness of our OL.
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Nolan has an A plus move. And he will rack up "hustle/motor sacks". He doesn't have a counter on his move. Or at least he didn't last season. He has been very successful with a ghost technique. And he has been able to bullrush "college quality" tackles.
With this being his money year, we are expecting a better showing of counter moves. He got a draft grade last season, so he knows his area of improvement. He is a freak athlete (best sparq score at the opening as a recruit). But his length is not what NFL edge players show (height/wingspan).
I wouldn't be shocked to see him get a 1st round spot next draft. But most dawg fans are seeing day 2.
I don't see Nolan in the first round. He's got an off-the-ball LB build and not a prototypical edge build. He's not long enough. He's viscous on the edge though. I don't see a 6'3" frame. I think day 2 is more fitting.
Logue, Carter and the big end that everyone thinks will start with the hyphenated name aren't bigger than what the Ducks see. Oregon might roll with Popo Aumavae, Taki Taimani and Brandon Drolus (to be determined) on the dline that go 304, 315 and 290 and DJ Johnson at OLB will be 275.
The issue with Carter is his twitch man. It's that speed to power quotient. I never understand why people are so focused on weight.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:08 pm to bisonduck
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I thought he'd get his assed kicked in by Haskell and Vincent from tOSU because they're big interior DL.
Walk was an absolute stud. Oregon has a lot of options on the OL including at IOL. He's staving them off. Walk is never the weakness of our OL.
The 247 guy was definitely complimentary of the tOSU game.
It may be the "nfl size" of the DL that he was referencing.
Zion Logue is 6'5".
Terrain Ingram-Dawkins is 6'5".
(Or at least that is what the media guides say).
We are replacing big guys who can fly with taller guys and longer arms.
Jordan Davis was able to play with his height because he carried so much mass and upper body strength (he could win a rep even with bad form).
I could see 6'5" being a bad thing for a nose tackle with short/long OL getting underneath with leverage.
My biggest concern is that Oregon does just enough in the run game to keep 3rd and short. And then our defense is facing these 10-12 play drives (whether they turn into points or not, they are taxing).
Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:19 pm to BowlJackson
If jawjuh's defense picks up where it left off, I don't see Oregon much over 17 points.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:34 pm to meansonny
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It may be the "nfl size" of the DL that he was referencing.
I find this to be low brow analysis for saying talent. Most teams are lining up with large people. FSU in the Rose Bowl lined up with 3 really large IDL but was functionally bad. FSU fans thought our OL would get mauled.
I personally think Georgia has talented DL (so not saying Georgia is FSU by any means). It's not the length or size that will matter but how good they are. After watching your team, it's Beal that worries me after Jalen Carter.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:40 pm to meansonny
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My biggest concern is that Oregon does just enough in the run game to keep 3rd and short. And then our defense is facing these 10-12 play drives (whether they turn into points or not, they are taxing).
I have no idea how this game is going to go. I think we most likely backdoor the cover but beyond that, I can see all kinds of scenarios.
Philosophically Coach Dilly wants explosive plays. FSU was one of the lowest graded run blocking OLs (they have really bad talent there) in the country but they were a leader in explosive runs.
Last year we beat teams with a thousand cuts with Cristobal.
I really think Georgia is sleeping on the skill talent of Oregon out wide.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:25 pm to BowlJackson
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quote:And yet you’re here. Here and yet able to enjoy sports, without pretending like the results have any real meaning in my life. Crazy how that works
I guess most Auburn fans have taken that stance lately. Crazy how losing works on your psyche.??
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:51 pm to LewDawg
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LewDawg
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Geez I hope not
Nobody cares about your hopes and dreams, Lew
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:14 pm to bisonduck
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really think Georgia is sleeping on the skill talent of Oregon out wide.
We the fans are. I’m positive Kirby isn’t.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:43 pm to Pulpwood Patterson
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We the fans are. I’m positive Kirby isn’t.
It matters what your players think. Any coach worth their salt wants every opponent taken seriously.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:51 pm to bisonduck
You know that isn't an issue for our team just like we know Oregon is doing everything possible to prepare as well.
Posted on 8/31/22 at 10:43 pm to bisonduck
Oregon preview by a UGA crew. ~ 1 hr long
No rush. It is long. But I'm curious of your thoughts (I'm about 7 minutes in myself).
No rush. It is long. But I'm curious of your thoughts (I'm about 7 minutes in myself).
Posted on 9/1/22 at 2:35 am to meansonny
That was awful. There were so many bad takes, I don’t know where to begin.
Just to name some off the top of my head:
1) Kris Hutson should start over Seven McGee.
2) J Butterfield threw the int to Florence in the SG and not Thompson.
3) The OL in the SG gave up 15 sacks because we did a draft and didn’t keep units together. It was walk ons vs one on a lot of those sacks.
4) Swinson’s run grade was poor because he played on a torn meniscus.
5) Our entire starting DL against Utah was injured. Popo and Dorlus played wire torn labrums. KWH missed the game.
I could go on. It was cherry picked to death.
For instance, Oregon State plays a ton of 12 and handled it just fine.
Just to name some off the top of my head:
1) Kris Hutson should start over Seven McGee.
2) J Butterfield threw the int to Florence in the SG and not Thompson.
3) The OL in the SG gave up 15 sacks because we did a draft and didn’t keep units together. It was walk ons vs one on a lot of those sacks.
4) Swinson’s run grade was poor because he played on a torn meniscus.
5) Our entire starting DL against Utah was injured. Popo and Dorlus played wire torn labrums. KWH missed the game.
I could go on. It was cherry picked to death.
For instance, Oregon State plays a ton of 12 and handled it just fine.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 3:01 am
Posted on 9/1/22 at 8:20 am to bisonduck
I wouldn't say it was cherry picked to death. It is 3 guys who know so little about Oregon try to nail an assessment on 2 Utah games and a spring game.
I get it. It is like 2 bandwagon Bama fans try to describe OC Chaneys offense when we are in year 3 of Todd monken.
I get it. It is like 2 bandwagon Bama fans try to describe OC Chaneys offense when we are in year 3 of Todd monken.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 8:33 am to bisonduck
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The OL in the SG gave up 15 sacks because we did a draft and didn’t keep units together. It was walk ons vs one on a lot of those sacks
If true, that sounds like an awful decision from the coaching staff. It is year 1 of install for offense and defense and 1 scrimmage was just wasted for fun.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 8:35 am to bisonduck
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After watching your team, it's Beal that worries me after Jalen Carter.
Bookmarked. Beal is good. But there isn't anything he can do better than Nolan.
Nolan gets asked to do more (drop into coverage. Switch to Sam when tight ends split wide in screen formations).
Stunt hard inside to free up a looper around the end .
Beal gets more green lights to go after the QB than Nolan because of Nolans versatility. You will feel different after saturday.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 8:57 am to BowlJackson
So you’re saying Auburn was the problem?
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:34 am to SneakyWaff1es
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So you’re saying Auburn was the problem?
That's not what I'm saying. You either have poor reading comprehension skills, or project whatever you want to hear into other people's words which makes you a narcissist. Either way, please don't pass your DNA along, signed the entire human race.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:36 am to BowlJackson
I honest-to-God forgot he was still even playing college ball. When I saw the post, I thought it was a like retro-joke or something.
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