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re: Pre-Season All SEC Team 2014

Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:58 am to
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:58 am to
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I think stats wise, Prescott is a good bet for QB.



If we're going for a guy who puts up numbers, then the only answer is Wallace.

He was 2nd in the SEC last year in passing yards behind Manziel. Had 3,701 all purpose yards and 24 touchdowns. I think people have really short memories on this board, and are discounting Wallace because of his performances against Mizzou and State, while completely ignoring his performances against LSU, Texas A&M, Texas, etc.
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 12:00 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:58 am to
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I would not have Marshall on mine either, but this statement right here leads me to believe you don't know shite.


Oh you're right, I forgot his hero moment to beat 6-6 Mississippi State
Posted by ILoveLamp
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:59 am to
No Coker, no care
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:59 am to
Sammie Coates as a wide receiver, Robenson Therezie in the secondary.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:00 pm to
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If we're going for a guy who puts up numbers, then the only answer is Wallace.

He was 2nd in the SEC last year in passing yards behind Manziel. Had about 3,500 all purpose yards and 20-something touchdowns. I think people have really short memories on this board, and are discounting Wallace because of his performances against Mizzou and State, while completely ignoring his performances against LSU, Texas A&M, Texas, etc.



Wallace had a 138 QB Rating last year which wasn't good enough to be Top 50 among QUALIFIED QBs last season.
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:00 pm to
Marshall is far from the best quaterback in the conference in a traditional sense but he will be the most successful on the field this year at the position based on what he's asked to do.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:01 pm to
How about leading his team to a 12-2 record after the team was 3-9 before he got there? Or outperforming any of you guys expectations?
Posted by Loathor
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:02 pm to
I'd say Skai Moore has a shot at one of the OLB spots. Great first year.

As for the QB spot, Marshall is probably the money pick right now. There just isn't enough info on anyone else coming into the role and of the returning starters he's got the most prestige.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:02 pm to
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Wallace had a 138 QB Rating last year which wasn't good enough to be Top 50 among QUALIFIED QBs last season.



I was just replying to someone who said "stats wise" and offered some actual statistics.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:03 pm to
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No, where did I say anything that led you to that?



Discounted passing stats. Discounting getting a playmaker at WR helping Marshall's passing stats.

quote:

In the end an all-conference pick is usually 2 things - stats and who they think the best guy is.



Pretty contradictory to your comment about getting a playmaker at WR "doesn't make him a better QB". I'd say that could definitely help him statistically. At the end of the day, no one is more proven to be the "better guy" than Marshall at this point.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:03 pm to
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Oh you're right, I forgot his hero moment to beat 6-6 Mississippi State


quote:

quote: I would not have Marshall on mine either, but this statement right here leads me to believe you don't know shite.


Just repeating it again since you proved it again.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:04 pm to
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How about leading his team to a 12-2 record after the team was 3-9 before he got there? Or outperforming any of you guys expectations?


Not sure how any of this falls into what I've been talking about. That was a team effort too, not nearly just on Marshall. Hell, it was a 2 OTHER team meltdown effort to get to 12 wins,
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

I was just replying to someone who said "stats wise" and offered some actual statistics.


QB Rating is the best QB statistic. Wallace was no good there.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:06 pm to
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Just repeating it again since you proved it again.


Hey you're right, congrats on his big moment against a .500 team.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:06 pm to
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QB Rating is the best QB statistic.


Lord, you continue.

Now two thing you don't know shite about.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Discounted passing stats. Discounting getting a playmaker at WR helping Marshall's passing stats.



No I didnt. I just said stats who and they believe is the best player is what leads to all-conference picks (Well, POST season).

Pre-season conference picks are generally stupid because they just choose the best "left over" player from the previous year which in some cases, like QB this year, looks hilarious.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:07 pm to
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I was just replying to someone who said "stats wise" and offered some actual statistics.

Stats wise Hunter Henry will be 1st team TE but everyone is still saying Howard in this thread. I think the criteria here is all over the place.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Hey you're right, congrats on his big moment against a .500 team.



Just face it, you don't know shite about what Wallace did last year. It's pretty obvious by the statements I replied to.
Posted by DCRebel
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:08 pm to
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QB Rating is the best QB statistic.


No it is absolutely not. It's pretty widely criticized and is hardly agreed upon as the "best" anything.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:08 pm to
Wallace would be my preseason pick... he'll put up big passing numbers again.

Nick might lead the league in total yards
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