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re: PLEASE Fill Me In.... WHY do LSU / FLA Hate Each Other So?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:18 am to bigDgator
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:18 am to bigDgator
That has more to do with the administration of the university than out of wack priorities. See, the guy who is the face of LSU, F. King Alexander has done an unbelievable job of embarrassing LSU on the national stage (see financial exigency comments) and ticking off every single major donor and lawmaker in the state legislature to the point that they're cutting LSU's budget and ceasing their donations to the university's general fund out of spite.
He has routinely promised donated funds would go to certain areas and then siphoned them off to other purposes and claimed there was no money left to do what the funds were raised for. To combat this, donors now only donate to specific departments. The colleges of business and engineering are raking in donations right now because donors know that if they just give it to the general fund that the money will disappear down a black hole.
After the shenanigans around firing Roy King, people are donating to TAF so that the money goes to the Tiger Band and NOT to the School of Music.
Also, TAF pays the university back MILLIONS of dollars rather than the other way around.
It's things like that. People's priorities aren't out of wack, the administration is driving them away, so they're giving their money where they can actually see a positive benefit.
He has routinely promised donated funds would go to certain areas and then siphoned them off to other purposes and claimed there was no money left to do what the funds were raised for. To combat this, donors now only donate to specific departments. The colleges of business and engineering are raking in donations right now because donors know that if they just give it to the general fund that the money will disappear down a black hole.
After the shenanigans around firing Roy King, people are donating to TAF so that the money goes to the Tiger Band and NOT to the School of Music.
Also, TAF pays the university back MILLIONS of dollars rather than the other way around.
It's things like that. People's priorities aren't out of wack, the administration is driving them away, so they're giving their money where they can actually see a positive benefit.
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:28 am to OliverQueen81
I think it's funny, especially the LSU idiot who has a sig, calling Florida pussies about being scared of storm.
Yet, Florida gave up their Home game, went into Baton Rouge and Won. LOL
You have zero reason to talk, you got an extra home game, and the best scenario, and still lost.
Yet, Florida gave up their Home game, went into Baton Rouge and Won. LOL
You have zero reason to talk, you got an extra home game, and the best scenario, and still lost.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:31 am to boXerrumble
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Your stupidity astonishes me really. It's clear that you are a hopeless case.
But if LSU had won, herp derp!
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:44 am to SeeeeK
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I think it's funny, especially the LSU idiot who has a sig, calling Florida pussies about being scared of storm.
Nobody ragged on them for being "afraid of the storm" but for not wanting to play it that weekend due to their injuries. They stood everything to gain at that moment to postpone the game or have it not played at all.
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Yet, Florida gave up their Home game, went into Baton Rouge and Won. LOL
This happened later in the process, far after the situation had boiled over. Ultimately Florida agreed to play the game in Baton Rouge in exchange for back to back home games with LSU in the following two seasons. Most people agree Florida got the better end of that deal. But they did ultimately win, which gives them complete victory in the shite talking department but has nothing to do with whether they or LSU were more correct in their sentiments regarding the originally scheduled game.
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You have zero reason to talk, you got an extra home game, and the best scenario, and still lost
You seem to have zero knowledge of what's being discussed. It wasn't at all the best scenario and the animosity has nothing to do with the actual game itself that was played on Nov. 19. I applaud Florida for that win. Made us look like complete jackasses for the expectations of kicking their arse.
Of course, again, that is not the source of the recent bad blood.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:53 am to ChewyDante
Lost in the cluster frick back and forth is something that neither side ever mentions. Yes lsu will play in Gainesville in 2017 and 2018 but the Gators just played in baton rouge in 2015 and 2016.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:59 am to ChewyDante
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Nobody ragged on them for being "afraid of the storm" but for not wanting to play it that weekend due to their injuries. They stood everything to gain at that moment to postpone the game or have it not played at all.
You LSU clowns think the world conspires against LSU. UF wisely decided it was best not to divert first responder and other resources and to hold an event where 80,000 fans and thousands of others would gather when there was a Category 5 storm in the area. Sure it wound up being a non-event in central Florida but if it were my decision I would err on the side of safety as well.
Sure in hind site they probably could have played but so what? It's just a game that could be rescheduled. You guys demanded that UF travel to B.R. and now you got two away games in return. That was Alleva's decision. No one has screwed LSU.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:00 pm to ChewyDante
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for not wanting to play it that weekend due to their injuries.
You and all the LSU fans who say this are demeaning yourselves. To keep banging this drum is like holding a sign above your head that says I am stupid. Nobody cancels a game worth millions of dollars because they have injuries. Teams regularly travel thousands of miles to get their arse beat for a half million or so.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:02 pm to 14&Counting
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UF wisely decided it was best not to divert first responder and other resources and to hold an event where 80,000 fans and thousands of others would gather when there was a Category 5 storm in the area.
Then why did the Miami game get played that weekend? Why did every other game in the affected area get played or postponed that weekend with the plan being announced days in advance yet Florida was too inept to find a way to make it work? They were the only ones who couldn't plan ahead and make adjustments because they didn't want to. Florida had every reason to not want that game played. They were injured and had a shot at winning the East without even playing it.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:07 pm to kingbob
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Then why did the Miami game get played that weekend? Why did every other game in the affected area get played or postponed that weekend with the plan being announced days in advance yet Florida was too inept to find a way to make it work? They were the only ones who couldn't plan ahead and make adjustments because they didn't want to. Florida had every reason to not want that game played. They were injured and had a shot at winning the East without even playing it.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:12 pm to kingbob
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Then why did the Miami game get played that weekend? Why did every other game in the affected area get played or postponed that weekend with the plan being announced days in advance yet Florida was too inept to find a way to make it work? They were the only ones who couldn't plan ahead and make adjustments because they didn't want to. Florida had every reason to not want that game played. They were injured and had a shot at winning the East without even playing it.
I can understand LSU fans trolling us with this stuff. Lots of good fodder for that. When you start making serious arguments like this you are doing nothing but perpetuating a negative image of the typical LSU fan. I don't suppose that makes any difference to the lunatic fringe though, so carry on.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:15 pm to kingbob
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Then why did the Miami game get played that weekend?
If I recall, that storm was 300-400 miles north of Miami by the weekend. So the trajectory was clear and it wasn't clear at mid-week when UF decided to postpone.
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Florida had every reason to not want that game played.
Yes - including a potential catastrophic storm
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Florida was too inept to find a way to make it work?
Make it work according to LSU's demands? They played the game.....
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:17 pm to 14&Counting
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Florida was too inept to find a way to make it work?
Make it work according to LSU's demands? They played the game.....
There is zero reason it should have been up in the air for a month as to whether or not that game would get played at all. It all worked out in the end (though, LSU and Florida each lost a rent-a-win game), but that doesn't mean it wasn't handled in an inexcusably unprofessional manner at the time.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:20 pm to kingbob
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that doesn't mean it wasn't handled in an inexcusably unprofessional manner at the time.
Maybe it could have been handled better on the UF side but Alleva and LSU showed their arse the entire time and for what? You got what you wanted in the end which was your home game.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:23 pm to 14&Counting
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but Alleva and LSU showed their arse the entire time
How did they do that? They offered to play it virtually anywhere, any time that weekend, even if it meant playing on Monday in Birmingham. They offered a wide variety of solutions, all of which were rejected.
Yes, LSU got its home game in the end, but like I said, it wasn't like LSU was saying "Death Valley or bust" from the beginning.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:35 pm to 14&Counting
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You LSU clowns think the world conspires against LSU.
Tell me where I suggested a conspiracy? I said UF did what was in their perceived interests. I didn't say there was a conspiracy or anyone else involved, so that's a lie.
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Sure in hind site they probably could have played but so what? It's just a game that could be rescheduled
Actually no, it wasn't a game that could be easily rescheduled, as anyone who paid attention witnessed and anyone with a modicum of foresight already knew.
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You guys demanded that UF travel to B.R.
Another lie.
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That was Alleva's decision.
Which is exactly what was already said.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:53 pm to bigDgator
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To keep banging this drum is like holding a sign above your head that says I am stupid. Nobody cancels a game worth millions of dollars because they have injuries. Teams regularly travel thousands of miles to get their arse beat for a half million or so.
I didn't say they canceled because of injuries, but the context of the season and how not playing that game could impact either teams' season was absolutely relevant to decision making. Also, to be clear, don't compare an athletic program like Florida's to small potato programs that travel and play slaughter games against opponents for money. Not remotely comparable.
The storm ruined Florida's ability to have a normal game at Been Hill Griffin. They weren't going to be making bank off that game and that was nature's fault, thus money is no longer the relevant concern. They could have made contingencies to play the game elsewhere, like everyone else did, if they were 100% committed to playing that game. And canceling it outright threw it into legitimate doubt that it could even be played that season. They made their decisions with all this in mind. LSU wanted to play the game ANYWHERE. Even as late as Monday. But UF decided to unconditionally call it off earlier in the week instead leaving options open to monitor the storm.
This situation is really not complicated. Florida was ok with not playing the game that weekend whereas LSU was chomping at the bit.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:20 pm to bamasgot13
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LSU fans hate that a call was made to postpone a game due to weather, they got the game AT HOME instead, then they ran their mouths for weeks about how Florida was scared and how LSU was going to kill them. Then their hero didn't play, their coach proved to be a moron, and Florida beat them in their house and now they've got to play in Florida for the next two years.
That's what LSU fans hate. They hate that they run their mouths all the time and very rarely does their team back up that fan talk on the field. They don't know how to process that frustration, so they direct it at Florida (and the SEC office, and Tom Ritter, and SEC Scheduling, and everything else that can be used as an excuse)
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:25 pm to ForeverGator
Nice spin on the narrative, ForeverGator.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:39 pm to ChewyDante
You are an idiot if you think Florida is going to try and plan a football game when a large portion of the emergency service workers were headed to the coast to help out over there.
I guess Foley could have called up the Fire and Police dept and said this: Hey sorry guys I know you are checking on the hurricane people but we didn't get hit over here in Gainesville so can you come back so we can play a football game. There is a guy named ChewyDante who says, "the context of the season and how not playing that game could impact either teams' season was absolutely relevant to decision making."
So we really need to play this game pronto.
And before the hurricane had completely passed the LSU fans, media, and AD were all in unison saying that it had to be played that weekend. We are not some fricking backward arse idiots who care about a football game if there are people an hour away dealing with a natural disaster. I know LSU can do that, we are not LSU and we don't give a frick that much about sports. And you can't make us. We were good with not going to Atlanta. It's called primotherfrickingorities.
I guess Foley could have called up the Fire and Police dept and said this: Hey sorry guys I know you are checking on the hurricane people but we didn't get hit over here in Gainesville so can you come back so we can play a football game. There is a guy named ChewyDante who says, "the context of the season and how not playing that game could impact either teams' season was absolutely relevant to decision making."
So we really need to play this game pronto.
And before the hurricane had completely passed the LSU fans, media, and AD were all in unison saying that it had to be played that weekend. We are not some fricking backward arse idiots who care about a football game if there are people an hour away dealing with a natural disaster. I know LSU can do that, we are not LSU and we don't give a frick that much about sports. And you can't make us. We were good with not going to Atlanta. It's called primotherfrickingorities.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 2:51 pm to bigDgator
Nobody said it had to be played in Gainesville, except your AD, and as I already pointed out, LSU was fine with Monday. Every other game, as already mentioned, got played.
The issue is, Florida's AD wanted Gainesville Saturday or nothing. That was the ONLY plan he had for that week.
All this has been explained ad nauseum and you have no means of countering it, hence all the dancing you just did which answered none of it.
The issue is, Florida's AD wanted Gainesville Saturday or nothing. That was the ONLY plan he had for that week.
All this has been explained ad nauseum and you have no means of countering it, hence all the dancing you just did which answered none of it.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 2:53 pm
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