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re: Pete Thamel: CFB Could Eliminate Divisions If Playoff Expands

Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:23 am to
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15391 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:23 am to
Of course they could doesnt mean they will
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:38 am to
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Sounds like the playoff committee is worried about having to take 2 SEC teams every year.

More like 3 or 4 if it goes to 12
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68293 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 9:48 am to
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But every time this has gone to a vote in the SEC every damn team votes it down except Alabama. WTH? Why won’t the school AD’s/Presidents/Coaches in the conference get onboard with this?



It's an extra loss on the schedule for 50% of the teams every year, that's why.

But imagine replacing a crappy OOC game like against a C-USa/Sun Belt team (or even FCS) with a conference game. Would be awesome.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7494 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:09 am to
An Auburn fan never quotes Pete Thamel. Never.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:10 am to
I think the point of eliminating divisions would be to eliminate Conference Championship Games so the opposition could not bitch about too many games.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:18 am to
Eliminating divisions would just make schedules more uniform and would ensure the top 2 teams would actually make the CCG.
Posted by Road to 16
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2014
823 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:21 am to
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Preseason rankings shouldn’t exist


I disagree. They are harmless with the playoff system. If Vanderbilt somehow went 13-0 this year, they are making the playoff even if people thought they were ranked 112. The preseason rankings are fun.

I mean, don't you enjoy to see Texas, Michigan, and Notre Dame start out top 10/15 and collapse?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41176 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:22 am to
Last time LSU went to Columbia was in 2008, and there are two Columbia in conference.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:36 am to
Hmmm...so Bama could no longer get a week off to rest up for the CFP.

But Ole Miss could no longer hang a banner for division co-champs.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 10:55 am to
That's not true. I know Gus while at AU was a proponent of expanding conference games. The push back came from schools like MSU wanting to be bowl eligible and the UGAs who played a OCC rival.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39989 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 2:30 pm to
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I disagree. They are harmless with the playoff system.


If Clemson, OSU, OU, and Oregon all start at 1-4 and Bama starts at 5 and all of them go undefeated then there is a strong possibility that Bama would not get the bye week just based on where they all started in the preseason. That's not harmless. That's costing the Tide an extra game which takes time and energy and opens them up to injuries while playing a fresh team coming off a bye.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 3:10 pm
Posted by 285exp
Mobile, Al
Member since Jan 2012
191 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:05 pm to
How do you determine the champion of a 14 team conference without a championship game?

Don’t say something stupid like make all conferences 10 teams, the SEC isn’t kicking 4 teams out.

And 16 or 17 games is too many, it’s not just some excuse. Adding a bunch of 2 or 3 loss and/or G5 teams that have no chance of winning to the playoff is ridiculous.
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3163 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:09 pm to
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How do you determine the champion of a 14 team conference without a championship game?


You can build in enough tiebreakers that it would work itself out most years. I can only think of a few years in which there wouldn't have been a "regular season champ" since the SECCG was introduced.
Posted by 285exp
Mobile, Al
Member since Jan 2012
191 posts
Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:06 pm to
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You can build in enough tiebreakers that it would work itself out most years. I can only think of a few years in which there wouldn't have been a "regular season champ" since the SECCG was introduced.


Sorting it out “most” years is a pretty low standard, and with the difference between conference champ and #2 being a bye week vs playing an extra game, the stakes are too high to not get it right. Murphy’s Law says what can go wrong, will.
Posted by Road to 16
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2014
823 posts
Posted on 6/22/21 at 8:16 am to
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If Clemson, OSU, OU, and Oregon all start at 1-4 and Bama starts at 5 and all of them go undefeated then there is a strong possibility that Bama would not get the bye week just based on where they all started in the preseason. That's not harmless. That's costing the Tide an extra game which takes time and energy and opens them up to injuries while playing a fresh team coming off a bye.


FSU 2014 says hello. Started preseason #1 and went undefeated. Ended up at #3. The CFP rankings come out so late that it has filtered out by then.

If we were basing the playoff on the AP Poll I'd agree with you but we are not.

The committee would put alabama in the top 4 in your example if their resume was better than one of those teams. They have typically proven that
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