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re: Per Chris Lee of VandySports, multiple starters have quit the team because of Sarah Fuller

Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:58 am to
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:58 am to
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From what I understand their punter was an All State kicker in HS. It seems they would have seen him kick a few times.


I'm guessing he was all state due to his punting, but he did kick field goals in HS.

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Jared Wheatley


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48.6 yards/punt, 8-of-9 field goals made, 64 tackles and two interceptions as a senior
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 9:59 am
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:58 am to
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I don't think he meant it as a defense of using a soccer player, but rather a semi-adjacent statement on how hard it is to transition from high school to college as a place kicker.


High school kickers make that transition literally every single year.

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Regardless of where the person was coming from, they'd have to practice a decent bit to get where they can really kick it well.
Would they have to practice as much as Sarah Fuller did?

Are you guys listening to yourselves? You are saying that it is easier for a woman soccer player to make the transition than it is someone who has been kicking for years.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:59 am to
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I'm guessing he was all state due to his punting, but he did kick field goals in HS.


Makes sense. I would think it easier for him to kick than a soccer player who had never kicked a football before though, don't you think?

Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:00 am to
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I would think it easier for him to kick than a soccer player who had never kicked a football before though, don't you think?


100%
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:05 am to
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I've never heard of anyone being allowed to just randomly join a team on a whim during the middle of the season



It seems there have been teams that held open tryouts for kickers before. Seems like Georgia did it years ago, and a couple of others at least. Pretty sure someone with kicking experience won the job, though.

The New York Jets did it last year.
Steelers did it in 2018.
South Florida did in 2015

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This was 100% political on Vanderbilt's part and I hope they suffer for years because of it
I agree.

Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:06 am to
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You don't come in your first day playing football and yell at the dudes who've been getting their arse kicked all year for not cheering like your soccer team does.


Exactly. I don't go in the kitchen and yell at my wife on the proper way to make a sandwich.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:18 am to
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She couldn't break the glass ceiling, the ball didn't get that high.


Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:30 am to
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she can, however, handle 5 -1/2 inches of the other kind of wood quite nicely.

Weird flex but okay.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:32 am to
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I don't think he meant it as a defense of using a soccer player, but rather a semi-adjacent statement on how hard it is to transition from high school to college as a place kicker.

Regardless of where the person was coming from, they'd have to practice a decent bit to get where they can really kick it well.

No offense, but you sound like a fricking dork. No offense.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 12:30 pm to
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There was never any "beating out" because there wasn't a tryout. Vandy just went to her and asked her to do it. That's a big part of what pisses people off.


So why are they blaming her for saying yes?


I haven't seen anyone that's blaming her for saying yes to the opportunity.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 12:33 pm
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 12:40 pm to
is the rest of the women's soccer team available to fill in for everyone that quit?
Posted by SCgamecock2988
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 12:46 pm to
I wanna see this chick try to get an extra point and get absolutely demolished.
Posted by I let the dogs out
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 12:51 pm to
I agree this is a 2-dimensional stunt by Vandy to signal their openness to gender equity. But y’all are a little too upset about it. It’s as if a locker room of only goobers is sacred to you. Do you like that musty smell? Does it make you randy?

This won’t take off because 99% of programs care only about winning. Let Vandy have their whatever this is.
Posted by RebelRye
Metairie, LA
Member since Nov 2018
1091 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 1:49 pm to
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LNCHBOX, our most beloved contrarian, kicks her arse at kicking


I can attest that LNCHBOX can hit a 50 yard fieldgoal. It was 5 years ago but I did see it in person lol
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 1:54 pm to
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Let her play QB for a play, toss a wobbly incomplete pass and get selected SEC Co-Offensive Player of the week.
FIFY
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 7:14 pm to
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No offense, but you sound like a fricking dork. No offense.


Human decency tends to appear that way to those who don't have it I suppose.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 7:41 pm to
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I don't think he meant it as a defense of using a soccer player, but rather a semi-adjacent statement on how hard it is to transition from high school to college as a place kicker.

Regardless of where the person was coming from, they'd have to practice a decent bit to get where they can really kick it well.


^This. Kicking isn't as easy as everyone assumes. It really is a technical thing that takes a ton of practice at the collegiate and pro levels to get right. That's also likely the reason why the coaches just went with a squib and hoped for the best but even that can go wrong.

We undervalue kickers and STs players more than any other position but if you're a guy (or gal) that likes to follow the analytics of the game returning starting kickers turn out to be one of the most important returning players a team can have -- more important than QB in factoring a team's likely production for the next season.

ETA: And no, I was never a kicker (unless you count managing to kick it behind myself), I just know a few who were.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 7:45 pm
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:05 pm to
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That's also likely the reason why the coaches just went with a squib and hoped for the best but even that can go wrong.


They went with a "squib" because if she absolutely unloaded and really got ahold of a kickoff, it might get to the 30 yard line. Also, they didn't want to take any risks that she might get hit.

It was a pathetic microcosm of all that is wrong with modern society.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:08 pm to
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They went with a "squib" because if she absolutely unloaded and really got ahold of a kickoff, it might get to the 30 yard line. Also, they didn't want to take any risks that she might get hit.

It was a pathetic microcosm of all that is wrong with modern society.


How so? Vanderbilt's best this year is a roster full of players that under normal circumstances wouldn't be playing even for Vanderbilt. They suck at an epic level because of that. I'm not sure why you or anyone else thinks the kicker should be better than the rest of the slaw.

Y'all are reading a conspiracy into what in reality is just a shitty team operating in shitty circumstances. This is not a normal bad Vanderbilt team.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 8:10 pm
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:13 pm to
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They went with a "squib" because if she absolutely unloaded and really got ahold of a kickoff, it might get to the 30 yard line. Also, they didn't want to take any risks that she might get hit.

It was a pathetic microcosm of all that is wrong with modern society.


I am inclined to agree with you; my argument is just that I don't think she has anything to do with Vandy sucking - they've managed to do that all on their own and players opting out now just seems like they're using her appearance as an excuse to jump a sinking ship.

In fairness though, I don't know them so I should probably stop presuming the worst from those guys. I really feel for their interim coach, who is stuck in a shite sandwich.
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