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re: Parity in the West

Posted on 8/21/15 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by herbie versmells
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Posted on 8/21/15 at 6:23 pm to
I don't really understand the pundits discounting MSU, I think they will be a pretty good team. They have the best QB in the conference returning, looks like they have upgraded receivers and D line looks good and the secondary is a strength. If there is a question, it may be along their OLine but they use more of a shift and block vs power type scheme, they look to make a crease in the defense. They gutted us with it last year. I won't be surprised if they finish in the top 3 in the west.
Posted by spacewrangler
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Member since Sep 2009
9746 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

wouldn't be surprised by any team representing the West in the SEC Championship ga


I would be surprised if it wasn't either Bama, LSU or Au.

14 Bama
13 Au
12 Bama
11 LSU
10 Au
09 Bama
08 Bama
07 LSU
06 Ark

When was the last time a non Big 3 in the West was in the SECCG? Yep, it was 9 years ago and overall only 4 tines in 23 years has a team not Bama, LSU or Au.



This post was edited on 8/21/15 at 9:41 pm
Posted by Fins up
Star, Ms
Member since Nov 2013
645 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:08 pm to
I'm saying these opinions are incorrect

FIFY
Posted by lefty08
Not in Auburn or Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5584 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Arkansas loses defensive starters and has a brutal road schedule.


Agree on the schedule, but if losing 3 starters on D makes this list, Ill take it. Who in the West didnt lose 3 D starters?
Posted by lefty08
Not in Auburn or Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5584 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

When was the last time a non Big 3 in the West was in the SECCG? Yep, it was 9 years ago and overall only 3 tines in 23 years has a team not Bama, LSU or Au.


False

Arkansas has been exactly 3 times alone
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
9746 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

False

Arkansas has been exactly 3 times alone




Yep, I edited my post.

Ark has had some good team and I've Always liked Ark. One of the few away games that I have not made and really want to go. Wish I would have gone when I was at Bama in the early 90s. Beautiful part of the country.
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 8/21/15 at 9:50 pm to
Yes the Hogs have been 3 times, State once, and TAM and Bears zero if recall correctly with no wins.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
7994 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 6:08 am to
quote:

In 2010, everyone but Ole Miss finished with at least 9 wins. In 2011, we had 3 teams finish in the top-5. But from top-to-bottom, this does look like the strongest the SEC-W has ever been.

I still find the 2010 standings incredible:

Auburn 14-0
LSU 11-2
Arkansas 10-3
Alabama 10-3
MSU 9-4
Ole Miss 4-8


That's a pretty incredible season. I guess that'll be the measuring stick. Hopefully, we replicate those exact results this year (plus 1 W for Auburn). I could live with 15-0.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
31935 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 6:59 am to
I was with you until this...

quote:

but their defense will likely regress. I think auburn and A&M determine the west.


LSU D will be fine. Its going to be tough to find a better secondary in the country. DL with the addition Of Coach O should improve. Might not have the depth of years past but the top end will be enough.

A&M loses 3 games in the west at least. Bama, barner, LSU. Cant sleep on the others either....
This post was edited on 8/22/15 at 7:00 am
Posted by ChexMix
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Member since Apr 2014
24896 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 7:23 am to
quote:

Auburn has a bad secondary

Please tell me which players are bad in our secondary. TIA
Posted by emoryman
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2012
62 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 7:30 am to
With the stockpile of talent at Alabama only coaching mistakes has held them back the last two years.
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
Member since Aug 2011
3008 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 7:33 am to
My point was not about talent, but more play calls/scheme/mentality.

You just can't compare Steele to Chavis.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24896 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 7:55 am to
quote:

You just can't compare Steele to Chavis.
you just cant compare LSU's secondary talent to ATM's.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Our defense will be much much improved


Probably not
Posted by Tigers of War
Ewor
Member since Aug 2013
1340 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 9:23 am to
I agree with a lot you stated except...

quote:

2010 Arky (if they still had Mallett, I can't remember)


2010 I believe mallet was there but.. Cam Newton was also at AU. Unless you'd pick mallet over Newton and youd be one of the few. But Mallet was pretty efficient as well.

I even doubt it's a homer pick to say Newton >>> Mallett
Posted by hangingdawg
Member since Jul 2015
245 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 9:38 am to
There's no I in party.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12511 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 1:52 pm to
I think people are down on them because they lost a decent amount of starters. They have no chance with out Dak and even you say the biggest question is the OL. They don't have the talent the rest of the conference has besides maybe Arkansas . I seen MSU had the worst odds of any team to win the west. So people putting money on the games seem to agree.
Posted by Lionnation1993
Member since Nov 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 2:02 pm to
MSU has no shot
Posted by BornKjun
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2008
954 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 2:36 pm to
Parity in the West is the biggest take away from my post forecasting the season.

6 of 7 SEC West are projected to win 4 or 5 SEC games.

Looking like the SEC west might knock each other out of the national top 4..

SEC Forecast
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 8/22/15 at 2:43 pm to
Last year.

There are 3 or 4 teams this year who really don't have a realistic shot to win the West.
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