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Herman Frisco
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
Be nice if Auburn would go out there a get a good coach.


Evolved Simian
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
They stupidly went to a nine game conference schedule, which weakened their overall conference SOS (it's documented), and the team that should be a powerhouse every single year (USC) is completely dysfunctional. They completely fricked up their network and never got distribution on one of the largest nationwide carriers. It's no wonder they're in trouble.

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the conference is paying almost $7 million annually in rent for its headquarters in an extremely expensive part of San Francisco.


Also, why the hell is this? Is it a vanity thing for the commissioner? The HQ doesn't belong in SF. Why the hell would you pay that kind of money if you don't have to. Put it in Sacramento and pay your commissioner a reasonable amount.

The SEC pays exactly $1 in annual rent, fwiw.

ETA - I wonder if the PAC12 has an equivalent to the LSU pussies whining that the location is unfair because it's 30 miles from Stanford.

I doubt any of them are that stupid.
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XenScott
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Member since Oct 2016
492 posts

re: PAC-12 in trouble
Looking at the AAC compared to the PAC 12, they are not far off on the field. If they could get a spot at the table, and pick off a team or two, they could be in business. B12 May swipe the Florida schools but if they don’t, the conference is on an upward trajectory. UCF, USF, Memphis, Houston, UConn, Cincy, SMU have all played big boy football at some point, even Temple dabbled with it for a couple of years.

The UCF Memphis game was light years better than the PAC 12 Championship, but they had it opposite the SECCG. Should have been Friday night opposite the P12 game and I bet it would have had better ratings.


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weremoose
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Member since Nov 2015
685 posts

re: PAC-12 in trouble
Maybe. But this is the Left Coast we are talking about here. Demographics shifts and masculinity rot inherent to leftist hotbeds are probably more to blame than the sport.

Football WILL retract. It may even become niche like Hockey. But it won't die.


Taurus 357
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Member since Dec 2014
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
OldSchoolHorn

This is true. It’s such a diverse student body throughout the conference and many of those kids didn’t have football/care about football growing up. It’s a soccer crowd for the most part. UW, USC and perhaps the Oregon schools have a love for football. The Arizona schools are known for baseball and basketball. Colorado will never spend big money on the football facilities. Utah is a solid football and basketball school. But there’s just not the love for football outside of LA, Seattle, Utah and perhaps Eugene. It doesn’t help when Stanford, USC and UCLA were all terrible on the gridiron either. And the officiating is really really horrendous


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agswin
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
Look for the new BigPAC 22 Conference coming soon.

Headquarters will be in Austin and all games will be televised on the Longhorn Network and Facebook.

Flag football will be their centerpiece.





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I Bleed Garnet
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
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As USC goes so does the perception of the Pac 12.


Urban will be there in 2 years to save the day.


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tigerburningbright75
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Member since May 2011
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
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Who is the LSU of the PAC-12? Colorado?
LSU has a far better football history than Colorado. In fact only USC is above LSU among PAC-12 programs in any ranking of college football's best programs ever. I don't feel sorry for the PAC-12 at all. 5-7 years ago they were crowing about how they were going to take over college football with their new "modern" commish named Larry Scott. How's that working out?


JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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In The Ham
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
Football on the Left Coast is dead. They just haven't buried it yet.


NoisyNinja79
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Member since Dec 2017
34 posts

re: PAC-12 in trouble
The people on the West coast do not care for college football.
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kywildcatfanone
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
Idiot. The official grabbed him and he just brushed him away.


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CU_Tigers4life
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Member since Aug 2013
1383 posts

re: PAC-12 in trouble
Well, the entire west coast for the most part is full of liberals that do a fantastic job of income redistribution right into the pockets of those in power. As it's been mentioned, these liberal schools simply don't care about sports....now it they want to save a tree, protest a pipe line or participate in some form of activism that's the place to go. I have noticed a trend of 4-5 star players migrating south to play football because they understand the nature of what it takes to make it to the next level.


Aubie Spr96
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
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On the field, the officiating during football games has devolved into a punch line, with numerous jokes made at the expense of Pac-12 referees. After Utah’s game against Washington in the Pac-12 championship game ended with a no-call on what appeared to be a blatant pass interference, an irate Ute coach Kyle Whittingham said in the press conference he was used to the poor officiating.



One of the worst no-calls I've ever seen.


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JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
Ed Zackery..........it is over


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Taurus 357
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
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CU_Tigers4life


So what is the argument? If they don’t care, and the rest of us don’t care that they don’t care about college football, what is the point? LOL


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GurleyGirl
Georgia Fan
Georgia
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
It's what happens when liberal elites dominate. The rest of us are still clinging to our guns, religion and sports.


tigerburningbright75
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Member since May 2011
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
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ETA - I wonder if the PAC12 has an equivalent to the LSU pussies whining that the location is unfair because it's 30 miles from Stanford.

I doubt any of them are that stupid.

Of course if the SEC ever decided to move their offices from Birmingham all you "smart" Alabama people would raise holy hell.


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Taurus 357
UCF Fan
Great Lakes Gambler
Member since Dec 2014
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
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It's what happens when liberal elites dominate. The rest of us are still clinging to our guns, religion and sports.


Places like Colorado, Utah, and arizona are far from liberal hotbeds. California is liberal but only as far as their tax status will carry them. Then magically they become conservative. Funny how that works. As far as God, Guns and sports... There are millions in the Northwest and mountain time zone who are no different to the southeast with these interests.
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CGSC Lobotomy
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re: PAC-12 in trouble
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Places like Colorado, Utah, and arizona are far from liberal hotbeds


You got 1.5 out of 3 right.

Colorado is lost.

Arizona just elected someone who vocally supports the right of Americans to join the Taliban as a Senator.


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BamaGradinTn
Alabama Fan
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
15692 posts

re: PAC-12 in trouble
So in light of all of this, I want to see someone justify including an automatic spot for the Pac-12 champion in an expanded playoff.

All the pundits and a lot of fans who argue for 8 teams in the same breath say to include all the power 5 champs. It's pure fricking stupidity.


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