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re: PAC-12 in trouble
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:06 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:06 pm to cardboardboxer
Be nice if Auburn would go out there a get a good coach.
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:24 pm to Lonnie Utah
They stupidly went to a nine game conference schedule, which weakened their overall conference SOS (it's documented), and the team that should be a powerhouse every single year (USC) is completely dysfunctional. They completely fricked up their network and never got distribution on one of the largest nationwide carriers. It's no wonder they're in trouble.
Also, why the hell is this? Is it a vanity thing for the commissioner? The HQ doesn't belong in SF. Why the hell would you pay that kind of money if you don't have to. Put it in Sacramento and pay your commissioner a reasonable amount.
The SEC pays exactly $1 in annual rent, fwiw.
ETA - I wonder if the PAC12 has an equivalent to the LSU pussies whining that the location is unfair because it's 30 miles from Stanford.
I doubt any of them are that stupid.
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the conference is paying almost $7 million annually in rent for its headquarters in an extremely expensive part of San Francisco.
Also, why the hell is this? Is it a vanity thing for the commissioner? The HQ doesn't belong in SF. Why the hell would you pay that kind of money if you don't have to. Put it in Sacramento and pay your commissioner a reasonable amount.
The SEC pays exactly $1 in annual rent, fwiw.
ETA - I wonder if the PAC12 has an equivalent to the LSU pussies whining that the location is unfair because it's 30 miles from Stanford.
I doubt any of them are that stupid.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:43 pm to Lonnie Utah
Looking at the AAC compared to the PAC 12, they are not far off on the field. If they could get a spot at the table, and pick off a team or two, they could be in business. B12 May swipe the Florida schools but if they don’t, the conference is on an upward trajectory. UCF, USF, Memphis, Houston, UConn, Cincy, SMU have all played big boy football at some point, even Temple dabbled with it for a couple of years.
The UCF Memphis game was light years better than the PAC 12 Championship, but they had it opposite the SECCG. Should have been Friday night opposite the P12 game and I bet it would have had better ratings.
The UCF Memphis game was light years better than the PAC 12 Championship, but they had it opposite the SECCG. Should have been Friday night opposite the P12 game and I bet it would have had better ratings.
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:53 pm to Cheese Grits
Maybe. But this is the Left Coast we are talking about here. Demographics shifts and masculinity rot inherent to leftist hotbeds are probably more to blame than the sport.
Football WILL retract. It may even become niche like Hockey. But it won't die.
Football WILL retract. It may even become niche like Hockey. But it won't die.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 6:49 am to OldSchoolHorn
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This is true. It’s such a diverse student body throughout the conference and many of those kids didn’t have football/care about football growing up. It’s a soccer crowd for the most part. UW, USC and perhaps the Oregon schools have a love for football. The Arizona schools are known for baseball and basketball. Colorado will never spend big money on the football facilities. Utah is a solid football and basketball school. But there’s just not the love for football outside of LA, Seattle, Utah and perhaps Eugene. It doesn’t help when Stanford, USC and UCLA were all terrible on the gridiron either. And the officiating is really really horrendous
This is true. It’s such a diverse student body throughout the conference and many of those kids didn’t have football/care about football growing up. It’s a soccer crowd for the most part. UW, USC and perhaps the Oregon schools have a love for football. The Arizona schools are known for baseball and basketball. Colorado will never spend big money on the football facilities. Utah is a solid football and basketball school. But there’s just not the love for football outside of LA, Seattle, Utah and perhaps Eugene. It doesn’t help when Stanford, USC and UCLA were all terrible on the gridiron either. And the officiating is really really horrendous
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:09 am to Lonnie Utah
Look for the new BigPAC 22 Conference coming soon.
Headquarters will be in Austin and all games will be televised on the Longhorn Network and Facebook.
Flag football will be their centerpiece.
Headquarters will be in Austin and all games will be televised on the Longhorn Network and Facebook.
Flag football will be their centerpiece.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 7:56 am to viceman
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As USC goes so does the perception of the Pac 12.
Urban will be there in 2 years to save the day.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:02 am to KSGamecock
quote:LSU has a far better football history than Colorado. In fact only USC is above LSU among PAC-12 programs in any ranking of college football's best programs ever. I don't feel sorry for the PAC-12 at all. 5-7 years ago they were crowing about how they were going to take over college football with their new "modern" commish named Larry Scott. How's that working out?
Who is the LSU of the PAC-12? Colorado?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:05 am to tigerburningbright75
Football on the Left Coast is dead. They just haven't buried it yet.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:09 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
The people on the West coast do not care for college football.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 8:10 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:11 am to cards
Idiot. The official grabbed him and he just brushed him away.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:35 am to Lonnie Utah
Well, the entire west coast for the most part is full of liberals that do a fantastic job of income redistribution right into the pockets of those in power. As it's been mentioned, these liberal schools simply don't care about sports....now it they want to save a tree, protest a pipe line or participate in some form of activism that's the place to go. I have noticed a trend of 4-5 star players migrating south to play football because they understand the nature of what it takes to make it to the next level.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:41 am to Lonnie Utah
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On the field, the officiating during football games has devolved into a punch line, with numerous jokes made at the expense of Pac-12 referees. After Utah’s game against Washington in the Pac-12 championship game ended with a no-call on what appeared to be a blatant pass interference, an irate Ute coach Kyle Whittingham said in the press conference he was used to the poor officiating.
One of the worst no-calls I've ever seen.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 8:47 am to NoisyNinja79
Ed Zackery..........it is over
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:58 am to CU_Tigers4life
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So what is the argument? If they don’t care, and the rest of us don’t care that they don’t care about college football, what is the point? LOL
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:01 am to OldSchoolHorn
It's what happens when liberal elites dominate. The rest of us are still clinging to our guns, religion and sports.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:02 am to Evolved Simian
quote:Of course if the SEC ever decided to move their offices from Birmingham all you "smart" Alabama people would raise holy hell.
ETA - I wonder if the PAC12 has an equivalent to the LSU pussies whining that the location is unfair because it's 30 miles from Stanford.
I doubt any of them are that stupid.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:15 am to GurleyGirl
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It's what happens when liberal elites dominate. The rest of us are still clinging to our guns, religion and sports.
Places like Colorado, Utah, and arizona are far from liberal hotbeds. California is liberal but only as far as their tax status will carry them. Then magically they become conservative. Funny how that works. As far as God, Guns and sports... There are millions in the Northwest and mountain time zone who are no different to the southeast with these interests.
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:18 pm to Taurus 357
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Places like Colorado, Utah, and arizona are far from liberal hotbeds
You got 1.5 out of 3 right.
Colorado is lost.
Arizona just elected someone who vocally supports the right of Americans to join the Taliban as a Senator.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:45 pm to Lonnie Utah
So in light of all of this, I want to see someone justify including an automatic spot for the Pac-12 champion in an expanded playoff.
All the pundits and a lot of fans who argue for 8 teams in the same breath say to include all the power 5 champs. It's pure fricking stupidity.
All the pundits and a lot of fans who argue for 8 teams in the same breath say to include all the power 5 champs. It's pure fricking stupidity.
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