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re: Overthinking/Overanalyzing, separates my body from my mind. (SEC Realignment)

Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:18 am to
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7392 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:18 am to
Pods DO NOT create that issue.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9795 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:20 am to
Move Bama and auburn to the east. Bama keeps auburn and Tennessee and auburn gets to bring back Florida and Tennessee, Bama and UGA every year would be off the charts nationally.

It also preserves the west with ou-Texas, arkie-Texas gets brought back, LSU keeps a&m and ole miss.

I couldn’t care less about the we want play all schools more often. The sec has never done that shite anyway. There isn’t a school in the current west that I have to play every year outside of auburn.
Playing Oklahoma, a&m, LSU or ole miss once every 10 years doesn’t bother me at all. Again, the sec has never had everybody play everybody often even when only had 10 teams. Don’t know why people are apeshite crazy about it now. I don’t buy what they say, I think their real motivation is to kill off some rivalries because they want school x to be their rival and that wouldn’t happen anyway.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
35959 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:22 am to
it's entertaining to watch the wannabe "serious sports talkers" on here who talk about charter members, but weren't even born in 1992 when Carolina and Arkansas joined.


Posted by OilfieldSooner
Member since Jan 2018
71 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:24 am to
If you add 4 more teams, who does the SEC go after? UNC? Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Clemson? It would be interesting to see who the SEC would want to bring in.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 11:29 am
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7392 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:26 am to
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Playing Oklahoma, a&m, LSU or ole miss once every 10 years doesn’t bother me at all. Again, the sec has never had everybody play everybody often even when only had 10 teams. Don’t know why people are apeshite crazy about it now. I don’t buy what they say


YES!!! WHY does the frequency come at the cost of important games.


WHO the f__k came up with the "full rotation in 4 years" bs?
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:42 am to
I, personally, was born in 1975.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:46 am to
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If you add 4 more teams, who does the SEC go after? UNC? Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Clemson? It would be interesting to see who the SEC would want to bring in.


My personal wishlist would include Clemson, as UGA has a natural and historical rivalry with them. That said, if you were to separate the conferences as I've suggested, Clemson would be a Carpetbagger and wouldn't be a yearly rivalry anyway, lest we both made the championship game.

Thus, I would just look at markets and teams that would bring more eyes/prestige to the conference as a whole to round out the Carpetbagger portion of the conference. VA Tech would be a nice addition, imo.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 11:47 am
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 11:49 am to
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If you add 4 more teams, who does the SEC go after? UNC? Virginia Tech, West Virginia, Clemson? It would be interesting to see who the SEC would want to bring in.


Also, perhaps we allow our carpetbagger brethren decide this for themselves, as they would be the ones squaring off with these teams, yearly.

Maybe Clemson for SC, and some other SWC schools for the rest.

IDK. I just like the idea because of the preservation of traditional rivalries and the rebirth of some others.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 11:51 am
Posted by CauleyHog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Nov 2012
4618 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:01 pm to
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All the traditional rivals back together again


Not for us...other than Texas and TA&M. We're in a weird position, for our fans and history it is Texas, A&M, LSU, and Ole Miss. Who in what order is subjective to generation and what not.
This post was edited on 7/4/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:14 pm to
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Not for us...othr than Texas and TA&M. We're in a weird position, for our fans and history it is Texas, A&M, LSAU, and Ole Miss. Who in what order is subjective to generation and what not.




South Carolina, similarly and for the same reason, is also in a weird position. I'll not deny that.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28312 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

it's entertaining to watch the wannabe "serious sports talkers" on here who talk about charter members, but weren't even born in 1992 when Carolina and Arkansas joined.


Yep.

I have been watching SEC football since the 60's. Rivalry games is what makes college football what it is for me. The SEC is dripping with traditional rivalries.

I pay no attention to the NFL until playoff time............that's when college football season is basically over.

College football is the greatest sport ever and I am afraid it's about to be effed up in a big way.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9537 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:36 pm to
How many conference games are you going to play? There is no (possibly) about making four divisions when you have 20 teams. It would take nine just to play your own division. Even at 10 conference games, you would only manage a home and away against the teams in the opposite division once every 20 years.

This is just the original ten teams leaving and reforming the SEC as it was in 1991 and leaving behind a frankenstein’s conference.

Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13256 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:50 pm to
Give up on the idea of playing every SEC team once every 2-4 years. It is traditional in the SEC NOT to do that! We have never played all teams in a 4 year span...never.

Plus, with the 20 teams we are going to, that's not possible anyway.

Divide whatever 20 teams we end up with into two, 10-team divisions and play every team in your division every season. (9 SEC games.) Division winners play in SECCG.
Posted by OilfieldSooner
Member since Jan 2018
71 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:58 pm to
I won’t disagree here. It’s a weird position for schools like OU and Texas to come in to the SEC and now some traditional rivalries may be lost. I can say for sure that’s not what we as a fan base wanted. However, I hope the schools currently in this conference can understand why we made the move. The little 12 had been stale for a while. Changes needed to be made to compete at the highest level, regardless of what the immediate effects may be.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:13 pm to
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This is just the original ten teams leaving and reforming the SEC as it was in 1991 and leaving behind a frankenstein’s conference.


I'm fine with this.

Yet, that's NOT what it's about, in reality. Yes, preserving (and restoring) traditional rivalries IS important, and is a factor here, YET, what this really is is a profit sharing structure that can also serve as a defacto qualifying round for the playoff.

Play everyone in your division, play the championship, move on in the playoff.

I could care less about playing teams that I have no history with every four years or so. May as well keep the existing model and schedule the OOC, as UGA has certainly been doing in recent years.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Give up on the idea of playing every SEC team once every 2-4 years. It is traditional in the SEC NOT to do that! We have never played all teams in a 4 year span...never


This.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:16 pm to
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Divide whatever 20 teams we end up with into two, 10-team divisions and play every team in your division every season. (9 SEC games.) Division winners play in SECCG.


Yes. SEC Charters and SEC Carpetbaggers.

It's a very simple solution that could only get pushback from original expansion teams, I'm sure.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 1:18 pm to
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The little 12 had been stale for a while.


It was, largely, a two team conference, at any given point in time.

I'd like to see y'all come in and reconnect some of those old, lost rivalries that fans of the SEC always secretly enjoyed as outsiders, only now under our own banner.
Posted by BobLobLaw199
Hickory
Member since Jan 2020
62 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 2:04 pm to
Good Tool reference. RTR
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 7/4/22 at 2:09 pm to
Nice AD reference...
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