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re: “Outbreak occurred mainly among vaccinated athletes”
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:09 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:09 pm to lsupride87
quote:No they don't. You must be confusing it with an antibody test.
Um, people test positive for months sometimes after being sick
\My daughter had Omicron last Thursday, tested positive Friday and tested negative yesterday. She's better now and negative, less than 1 week later.
Hers was a breakthru case but she doesnt have a booster yet, appointment is for next week. Im boosted and I never got sick despite caring for her.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 6:11 pm
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:11 pm to Slackaveli
How do you know it was omicron?
There isnt even a test for it.
There isnt even a test for it.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:13 pm to Slackaveli
quote:Um no, no I’m not
No they don't. You must be confusing it with an antibody test
Testing positive for weeks and months after having covid is not uncommon
quote:From CDC
On August 3, 2020, CDC updated its isolation guidance based on the latest science about COVID-19 showing that people can continue to test positive for up to 3 months after diagnosis and not be infectious to others. The latest data simply suggests that retesting someone in the 3 months following initial infection is not necessary unless that person is exhibiting the symptoms of COVID-19 and the symptoms cannot be associated with another illness.
The reasoning for that is a far too specific test
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This means that very low levels of the RNA or viral genomic fragments can test “positive” for months after the acute infection but are not associated with live virus. This detection issue is common for other RNA viruses.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:17 pm to lsupride87
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It’s why every league has a maximum day quarentine usually at 5 or 10 days. Because of it was a “negative test” you would have multiple people out there entire season
I don't know enough about testing to argue about it.
But if that was the case, shouldn't teams be looking to test as quickly as possible to get players cleared? Since if they wait 3 weeks to test, they won't have time to get cleared and they could test positive for something they had a month ago?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:19 pm to 3down10
quote:Teams don’t have to test asymptomatic players at all…..
But if that was the case, shouldn't teams be looking to test as quickly as possible to get players cleared? Since if they wait 3 weeks to test, they won't have time to get cleared and they could test positive for something they had a month ago?
A&M chose to test their entire team. Now try and figure out why…..
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:21 pm to lsupride87
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Teams don’t have to test asymptomatic players at all…..
A&M chose to test their entire team. Now try and figure out why…
If 5% of the team is positive, vaccinated or not, the team will be tested daily.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:25 pm to bamameister
quote:Not true
If 5% of the team is positive, vaccinated or not, the team will be tested daily.
You are quoting what the NCAA recommended. The SEC policy is far far more lenient. Vaccinated players who don’t have symptoms never have to be tested, period
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:29 pm to Slackaveli
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No they don't. You must be confusing it with an antibody test.
Well shite. If your daughter didn’t still test positive, I guess no one can.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:32 pm to 3down10
Truth is more athletes die from playing sports than from covid.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:32 pm to the808bass
I guess we'll have to scrub the Michael Jordan "flu game" from the records. He should have been in flu protocols, I guess.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:38 pm to ScoggDog
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My daughter had Omicron last Thursday, tested positive Friday and tested negative yesterday. She's better now and negative, less than 1 week later.
We used to call that the "flu". It used to give you the fever, chills, and sometimes shits and pukes, for one to three days. If you were unlucky or laid around too much - it moved to your lungs. It killed old people and weak people that way - we called that "pneumonia".
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:40 pm to lsupride87
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A single copy of viral RNA can be amplified to more than 2 trillion copies during a typical 40-cycle testing protocol. Amplification of genomic sequence is measured in cycle thresholds (Ct) and the Ct values correlate with whether a sample contains infectious virus particles.
The CDC report was back in August 2020 which is also when the 40 - CT started to be viewed as no longer necessary once CDC reported no live replicating Wuhan virus found above a 33 CT (at least in 2020). Anything above 33 was a fragment like you also quoted. Problem was into summer of 2020 and possibly into fall the test results were still not including the CT number and just reporting a positive or negative.
August 2020 - Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn't Be
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:03 pm to lsupride87
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introduced to the virus
So they DON’T get Covid. Got it
(I’m being facetious).
These “vaccines” aren’t working as they were promoted (regardless of your fricking word salad). They are a “pre-treatment” designed to mitigate the severity of symptoms (which can be invaluable for those of a certain age or with major health issues). However, at this point, calling them vaccines is disingenuous by any logical measure.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:03 pm to dallastigers
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The CDC report was back in August 2020 which is also when the 40 - CT started to be viewed as no longer necessary once CDC reported no live replicating Wuhan virus found above a 33 CT (at least in 2020).
The cat that - quite literally - invented the PRC test has said repeatedly that it is not an "are you sick" test. It's a test - if you're sick - to figure out why.
Because you can have cells of the 'Rona in your nose, even in your body, and not catch the 'Rona. Because infection is not a binary thing. It depends on viral load - your own immune system - and so many other factors the "experts" can't quantify them all.
No different than - back in the day - working next to a guy on the line that's got the sniffles. You may get them - you may not.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:03 pm to 3down10
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A man who can't swim comes to a river and needs to cross it. He reads a sign that says the average depth of the river is 1 foot.
He drowns.
That is basically what using those stats over the individual cases is doing. It's bullshite.
Quippy
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:06 pm to 3down10
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If a person has already beat it once naturally, they aren't really at a risk of dying.
Wasn't the first Omicron US death a man in his 50's, who had previously had Covid that got reinfected and died but wasn't vaccinated?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:09 pm to 3down10
Remember when Saban had covid then tested negative 3 days later?
How quickly they forget.
How quickly they forget.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:09 pm to Slackaveli
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No they don't. You must be confusing it with an antibody test.
They often do test positive actually. It’s complicated. Rapid, point-of-care tests certainly will certainly produce false positives as they have poor specificity.
But, even NAAT PCR tests will produce false positives. The most common reason is shitty testing and sample handling. But even without the abundance of human error/machine error (BD MAX sucks bad), cycle threshold (ct) are generally calibrated lower than 35. At one time 36. Europe was running below 32 and I dunno now? Prolly 24 is appropriate.
So, lot of asymptomatic people would be positive technically.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:15 pm to ceretonia
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Wasn't the first Omicron US death a man in his 50's, who had previously had Covid that got reinfected and died but wasn't vaccinated?
How many has Omicron killed ? By my math - two. Two reports - maybe they are verified, maybe not.
Two people die every day from driving. Way more than two. Two kids die every day from drowning in the tub.
Get this - I won't tolerate a ban on either roads or bathtubs.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:19 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:Thats how every vaccine in the history of creation works
These “vaccines” aren’t working as they were promoted (regardless of your fricking word salad). They are a “pre-treatment” designed to mitigate the severity of symptoms
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