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Calhoun Tiger


No frickin way. It makes so much sense!

I remember arguing with that guy as a 19 year old on the free Auburn rivals board like 10 years ago.

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Kelvin Benjamin had like 5 catches for 75 and 2 touchdowns against the Seahawks as a rookie during last years playoffs. Amari Cooper has never played in a playoff game. You definitely don't want to make that comparison


So we are or aren't going to address

(a) That you were wrong about Funchess and Cooper

(b) Greg Robinson and Dee Ford, Auburn's only 1st round picks since 2011, being some of the worst players at their positions in the NFL

Thanks in advance
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Leave it to a bammer retard to laugh at Kelvin Benjamin being a pro bowl player when he had more receptions and touchdowns during his rookie year than Amari Cooper did




Leave it to you to think 5 is more than 6
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Devin Funchess


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more touchdiwn than Amari Cooper during their rookie years



Is 5 > 6 now? If not, then you are wrong, again.

Denvin Funchess : 31 catches, 473 yards, 5 TD
Amari Cooper : 72 catches, 1,070 yards, 6 TD


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Remember when you said that was the best way to judge players




No, I don't remember saying that
Where would Greg Robinson and Dee Ford fall in the "Panthers drafts" comparison?
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Compare Amari to Benjamin
Dareus to Star L
Mosely to Shaq Thompson


Makes your brain hurt
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Look at the Carolina Panthers first ground picks in the last 5 years to see what a successful first round draft pick looks like:


Are you arguing with another NFL fan about teams drafts what? WTF is this?

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Those players are light years better than most of bammers first round picks


Amari > Benjamin
Mosly's rookie year > Shaq Thompson
Dareus > Star L

Kuechly and Newton are 2 of the 5 best players in the league, so sure.

Anything else?

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You understand that an "average starter" is a badass compared to all of the first round picks from Auburn the last 3 years, right?


Fixed it
Auburn 1st round picks since 2012 graded
2014 #2 pick : Greg Robinson, tackle, #77 (30.3) - below replacement (5th worst starting tackle in the NFL per PFF)

2014 #23 pick : Dee Ford, edge rush, #104 (46.3) - below replacement (7th worst edge rusher in the NFL per PFF)



Who would say has the higher bust rate the last few years? I'd say 100% would be hard to top.
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hopes of them being average.


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Being an "average starter" in the motherfricking National Football League doesn't make you a bust, you window licking retard.


2015 "Average Starters"
Teddy Bridgewater (77.4)
Phillip Rivers (77.0)
Ryan Tannehill (73.2)
LeSean McCoy (78.9)
Demaryius Thomas (78.4)
Eric Weddle (77.8)
Eric Reid (75.9)
Rey Maualuga (77.9)

Buncha busts
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row 37 and beyond?


Pretty high. Coleman's layout is awful and the side court seats very gradually rise up. Anything above halfway up is pretty far away. It isn't awful, but it isn't close. I'd suggest looking for the top of the ends or even the corner part closest to the ends.

They also sell almost all tickets online now, so (at least personally) it makes it harder to get tickets outside a game because they are paper print off tickets and I don't really trust those.
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I am pretty sure James Caroenter would have been in that group last year.


And CJ Mosely would have been the opposite.

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So at least 10 first round draft picks that are average or below.


You realize that the rate of 1st round picks becoming pro bowlers is not super high, right? That is the norm for everyone, not just "Alabama".

But enjoy your fantasy. Dee Ford and Corey Lemonier were even below Courtney Upshaw on the edge rushing list. Yeesh.
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I don't subscribe to PFF's calculations. I've seen many of their rankings that are just blatantly wrong.




Agree, they aren't great at taking into account specialty guys either, but it still gives an overall idea and shows that Alabama had a million guys who start or play a lot and a bunch more who are above average.
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Sold out? At Coleman?


Well, the only available tickets are a couple singles, so basically, yea.
7 above average or pro bowl level NFL players from the draft classes between 2010 and 2014.

Yea, what a bunch of busts.
Alabama Player Grades

QB
25th - AJ McCarron (68.4) (below average starter)

RB
8. TJ Yeldon (83.2) (above average starter)
20. Eddie Lacy (78.7) (average starter)
33. Mark Ingram (73.6) (average starter)

FB
2. Jalston Fowler (73.3) (average starter)

WR
2. Julio Jones (96.0) (elite)
51. Amari Cooper (74.0) (average starter)

TE
61. Michael Williams (52.5) (below replacement)

Tackle
60. Andre Smith (39.6) (below replacement)
UR. Cyrus Kouandjio (72.8) (below average starter)

Guard
3. Evan Mathis (89.7) (pro bowl level)
16. James Carpenter (81.2) (above average starter)
41. Chance Warmack (64.3) (back up)
67. DJ Fluker (45.5) (below replacement)

CB
68. Kareem Jackson (62.6) (backup)
105. Dre Kirkpatrick (38.8) (below replacement)

Safety
7. HaHa Clinton-Dix (85.2) (pro bowl level)
39. Rashad Johnson (74.9) (average starter)
49. Roman Harper (71.8) (below average starter)
77. Landon Collins (56.2) (below replacement)

Linebacker
10. Dont'a Hightower (85.2) (pro bowl level)
19. Mark Barron (74.8) (average starter)
27. Rolando McClain (below average starter)
39. CJ Mosley (65.1) (back up)
74. DeMeco Ryans (43.6) (below replacement)

Interior Line
16. Marcell Dareus (87.4) (pro bowl level)
62. Quinton Dial (73.3) (average starter)
83. Wallace Gilberry (67.1) (below average starter)
103. Ed Stinson (59.8) (below replacement)

Edge Line
85. Courtney Upshaw (54.7) (below replacement)
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lol, none of these guys are busts anymore except cody


Busts don't start at cornerback for the entirety of their first contract and then get a second contract with the same team like Kareem Jackson. Good grief.
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An elite QB has been the "missing piece". An elite kicker has been the "missing piece".


AJM was an elite QB. Griffith and Tiffin were/are very good college kickers by the end of their careers.

Cade Foster was miserable.
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Griffith had a really good year, outside of the Wisconsin game. He's making 50+ yarders now.


And our only other highly rated starter finished his college career with 77 TDs and 15 INTs , 67% completion percentage, etc etc.

What a bum!