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Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:40 pm to 3down10
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Yes, if you had put a good game up against Georgia then the A&M loss could have been seen as more of a trap game, rather than an indicator of LSU's actual team strength.
But we saw LSU was just not a good team when they played Georgia.
I think LSU fans just stopped counting the season after the Alabama win. It's like you're oblivious to how the season ended.
LSU's starting quarterback was injured vs Georgia and LSU had a depth problem all year that bit them down the stretch.
I think most LSU fans understand that.
LSU was something like a 15 point underdog vs Georgia with Jayden Daniels and lost by 20 without him.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:44 pm to SidewalkTiger
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LSU was something like a 15 point underdog vs Georgia with Jayden Daniels and lost by 20 without him.
As it turns out, Vegas knows what they're about.
Reminds me of that idiot Ole Miss poster that went on all spring and summer about LSU being favored by "only 2.5 points" against FSU.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:47 pm to wadewilson
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We won the west in a season where we were picked to finish 6th or 7th. I'll call that an accomplishment, as would any reasonable and objective person.
People who don't care about context I guess. For people who care about context, they don't just ask if you jumped over the bar, they ask how high the bar was. And that's the part LSU fans want to kick under the rug. If the bar had been it's normal height, LSU would have bumped their head rather than go over it.
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None of it was a fluke. LSU played over their heads and finally gassed. If you knew anything about this LSU team, you'd understand that it was operating under severe limitations, particular at the interior of the front 7, QB, and CB. Literally - not figuratively - half of this roster was recruited by Kelly. We didn't even have enough personnel to run a true spring scrimmage. FSU was the first time this team played together under a whistle.
So the loses before the Alabama game were because they were young and hadn't played each other.
The losses after the Alabama game were because you were gased.
But for that brief moment against Alabama, things were perfect, and that's that moment that matters?
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What?
You'll know what soon.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:50 pm to SidewalkTiger
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LSU's starting quarterback was injured vs Georgia and LSU had a depth problem all year that bit them down the stretch.
I think most LSU fans understand that.
LSU was something like a 15 point underdog vs Georgia with Jayden Daniels and lost by 20 without him.
Because you weren't a good team...
Did you forget this discussion is about the fact that the SEC West was down this year, and that winning it really wasn't much of an accomplishment?
But by all means, keep posting things that highlight my point while calling me the idiot.
On the other hand, if LSU had performed well against Georgia, how do you think that would have been perceived?
Hmmm. I bet it would have looked as though LSU was actually a good team and...the A&M loss was probably just an outlier/trap game.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:50 pm to 3down10
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And that's the part LSU fans want to kick under the rug. If the bar had been it's normal height, LSU would have bumped their head rather than go over it.
You have some very simplistic opinions for someone who claims to specialize in "logic."
The "bar" is never the same height and it's impossible to quantify where the "bar" is in a specific season.
A bounce here or there and everything changes.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:52 pm to 3down10
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Because you weren't a good team...
Compared to what?
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On the other hand, if LSU had performed well against Georgia, how do you think that would have been perceived?
They performed exactly how they were predicted to.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:55 pm to 3down10
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If the bar had been it's normal height
If my aunt had tits I'd have been a confused child.
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So the loses before the Alabama game were because they were young and hadn't played each other.
The losses after the Alabama game were because you were gased.
They can both be true, but I understand that doesn't fit whatever narrative you're trying to construct.
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But for that brief moment against Alabama, things were perfect, and that's that moment that matters?
I understand that you think everything is about Alabama, but LSU played above its head at times and not very well at other times. The inconsistency was and is infuriating, but some of that is on roster depth. I hope they can solve the issues by next fall.
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You'll know what soon.
Be sure to tell me. I'd hate to miss it.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:56 pm to SidewalkTiger
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The "bar" is never the same height
This is true and that is my entire point.
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it's impossible to quantify where the "bar" is in a specific season.
This part is not true at all, or even remotely true. If this was true, we would never have been able to determine in the past that the SEC West as the toughest division in college football. That is literally a statement on the height of the bar.
Was the SEC West the toughest division in college football this year? frick no. Again, another literal statement on the height of the bar.
If you just want to ignore the context and pretend LSU was this and that this year, then have at it. It's a free country.
But when winning the SEC West is actually an accomplishment, it won't be the accomplishment you highlight at the end of the season.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 5:58 pm to 3down10
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This part is not true at all, or even remotely true. If this was true, we would never have been able to determine in the past that the SEC West as the toughest division in college football. That is literally a statement on the height of the bar.
Was the SEC West the toughest division in college football this year? frick no. Again, another literal statement on the height of the bar.
1. When was the last time the SECWest was the "toughest division in football?"
2. What is your criteria for determining that?
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:00 pm to 3down10
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Did you forget this discussion is about the fact that the SEC West was down this year, and that winning it really wasn't much of an accomplishment?
You keep repeating this. Are you really that upset that we're mostly content with how the season went?
This is just weird to me, because I've never cared about how Alabama fans feel about their team as much as you care about us and our feelings about our team.
You need a hobby, my brother in christ.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:00 pm to wadewilson
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If my aunt had tits I'd have been a confused child.
I think you are confused now... All my aunts had tits.
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They can both be true, but I understand that doesn't fit whatever narrative you're trying to construct.
It's hilarious how you just gloss over the losses and make excuses for them. Again, LSU had 1 accomplishment this year, beating Alabama.
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I understand that you think everything is about Alabama, but LSU played above its head at times and not very well at other times. The inconsistency was and is infuriating, but some of that is on roster depth. I hope they can solve the issues by next fall.
When did LSU play above it's head?
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Be sure to tell me. I'd hate to miss it.
Go rewatch the end of the A&M or Georgia games, you already missed those.
Surely you don't want me to post the images do you? Because I will.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:01 pm to 3down10
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Was the SEC West the toughest division in college football this year?
Which one was tougher?
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:02 pm to SidewalkTiger
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1. When was the last time the SECWest was the "toughest division in football?"
2. What is your criteria for determining that?
I can't anymore. You win. LSU winning the SEC WEst was just an indicator of how great they are.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:03 pm to wadewilson
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Which one was tougher?
The SEC East and the Big10 East off the top of my head.
It use to be the SEC West by a decent margin.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:03 pm to 3down10
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I can't anymore. You win. LSU winning the SEC WEst was just an indicator of how great they are.
Every time I ask you to quantify your statements you instead deflect and build strawman arguments.
Odd.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:07 pm to wadewilson
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You keep repeating this. Are you really that upset that we're mostly content with how the season went?
This is just weird to me, because I've never cared about how Alabama fans feel about their team as much as you care about us and our feelings about our team.
You need a hobby, my brother in christ.
I'm not upset about anything. It's a SEC football forum and I'm just commenting on the topic. Which is grading coaches in their 1st year.
You and other LSU fans are just upset because I pointed out that Brian Kelly's big accomplishment wasn't really as big of an accomplishment as you guys are claiming.
The rest is just you guys trying to get me to pretend things that aren't true.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:07 pm to 3down10
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I think you are confused now... All my aunts had tits.
Yeah, you got me there.
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It's hilarious how you just gloss over the losses and make excuses for them.
I didn't gloss over anything. We lost 4 games, 3 of them by multiple scores.
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Again, LSU had 1 accomplishment this year, beating Alabama.
Again, LSU won the west this year. That's an accomplishment.
Again, LSU won more games than they were supposed to. That's an accomplishment.
Again, LSU will return more players in this one season than Orgeron's teams did in any single season. That's also an accomplishment.
frick your opinion of what you think qualifies as an accomplishment.
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When did LSU play above it's head?
Beating Alabama, Ole Miss, State, Arkansas, Florida. We were picked to lose some to all of those games by various different sources.
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Go rewatch the end of the A&M or Georgia games, you already missed those.
Surely you don't want me to post the images do you? Because I will.
Go ahead, shitbird.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:08 pm to SidewalkTiger
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You have some very simplistic opinions for someone who claims to specialize in "logic."
He is such a fricking hack, which is why I normally ignore him.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 6:09 pm to 3down10
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SEC East
The top 2 teams were better, sure, but was everybody else really better than the rest of the west?
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