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Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by ALhunter
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:44 pm to
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the coach leaves for another school the NCAA would probably allow a player to transfer a 2nd time.

I doubt it


Under their guidelines, they CAN transfer again but have to sit a year. I wouldn't shocked if the NCAA starts allowing immediate eligibility though. The whole thing changed because the NCAA kept getting sued. They're going to get sued again now. Think about how this plays out in court...

Player: "I transferred for XYZ health/personal family reason and the NCAA won't let me play. It's causing me hardship/damages for no reason on they're part"
NCAA: "We won't let him play because we said so and it causes our member schools hardship because we make billions of dollars off of these athletes and stuff"
Judge: "I thought you don't pay them, you're making billions while restricting their ability to transfer?"

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The NCAA this week merely codified the landscape that had developed around the portal and the one-time transfer rule. Those undergrads who wanted to transfer more than once merely applied to the NCAA for a waiver citing extenuating circumstances. More often than not, the NCAA granted those waivers knowing, in the end, it didn't want to face a lawsuit.
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2927 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:47 pm to
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The Auburn melt is going to be epic when they get turned down Kiffin. A coach known for switching schools is going to stay in Oxford rather than deal with that mess at Auburn and I do not blame him at all.


Then we take Freeze and all is well... what is going to "be epic" is the I told you so thread where all of the Dawg, TinTown, and SIP posts saying he'd never go to Auburn get drug back up and lots of crow is eaten.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Under their guidelines, they CAN transfer again but have to sit a year.


They don't have to sit out a year if they are granted a waiver by the NCAA
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:51 pm to
Yes….we’re all aware of the waiver.

But that’s still an “if”.
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2927 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:53 pm to
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They don't have to sit out a year if they are granted a waiver by the NCAA


Yea that's the whole second part of my post around the NCAA getting sued over the waivers...

The guidelines are very specific right now so they shouldn't be easy to get. NCAA may be more lenient though out of fear of being sued.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:56 pm to
The other caveat is would the ncaa preemptively grant him the waiver. Usually it’s a long process and the transfer portal is only like 60 days long or so. Usually it’s something done AFTER the transfer…..so would he want to take that chance?
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:57 pm to
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Bama to MSU as a Grad transfer( He wasn't a grad transfer. We’re all pretty used to you being fricking wrong at just about everything…..but it never gets old. LINK quote:Shavers has already graduated at Alabama and thus is immediately eligible to play for Mississippi State.


Bumping this to make sure the idiot sees it.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 1:00 pm to
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The guidelines are very specific right now so they shouldn't be easy to get. NCAA may be more lenient though out of fear of being sued.


If the NCAA denies the transfer. The player calls Atty Tom Mars and then they get their waiver. Mars knows Ole Miss well
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2927 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 1:04 pm to
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The guidelines are very specific right now so they shouldn't be easy to get. NCAA may be more lenient though out of fear of being sued.
If the NCAA denies the transfer. The player calls Atty Tom Mars and then they get their waiver. Mars knows Ole Miss well


Yea there was a funny interview with a lawyer I saw who, prior to the rule change, handled lots of the transfer rule cases. He had so much work he was turning away cases evidently. It leaves the NCAA running around the country having to handle lawsuits arguing that student athletes shouldn't be allowed to transfer. Talk about a shitty position.
Posted by hiremikeleach
Member since Dec 2019
4612 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 1:07 pm to
I think you will be a little dissapointed about the players that follow him tbh
Posted by PubeCrab
Member since May 2014
830 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:20 pm to
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I think you will be a little dissapointed about the players that follow him tbh

True, certainly isn’t much value on the defensive side of the ball there.
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:25 pm to
Alabama
Usually
Beats
Us
Red
Necks
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2927 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:51 pm to
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Alabama
Usually
Beats
Us
Red
Necks

I hope you're an alter because otherwise this is so sad...

An OM fan dickriding Bama in a melt around your coach getting stolen?
Posted by umrebel2009
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 2:56 pm to
Jonathan Hess will probably go with him to try out the auburn fire extinguishers
Posted by Drebin
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 3:07 pm to
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Bumping this to make sure the idiot sees it.



Oh, you can bet your arse he saw it. He sees everything on here, Gene's Page, and Six Pack.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
64452 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 3:25 pm to
This actually does make me think he’s a bama fan as none of them know what the word “graduate” means.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 3:36 pm to
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A school submits a 4-4 transfer waiver when documented circumstances outside the student- athlete’s control necessitate his/her transfer.
A coach leaving probably won’t qualify. To date, moving closer to home due to a family situation has worked and moving to a school for a graduate program not offered at the current school. I don’t think following my coach to greener pastures passes the test.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15081 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 4:08 pm to
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A coach leaving probably won’t qualify.


A coach leaving is a circumstance outside the student- athlete’s control.The new coach may run a different offense and the player didn't sign up for that.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
64452 posts
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:43 pm to
You’re signing with a coach who’s never been at the same job for 3 years. That’s very much in your control.
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