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re: Ohio State's Florida Satellite camp draws over 600 players
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:28 pm to Alert Mi
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:28 pm to Alert Mi
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You are probably the coolest poster on this board. Your usage of the latest street slang sets you apart from the rest of us and lets others know that you are probably a very popular person in real life. I bet you aren't the kind of person that throws shade at anyone. Hopefully I can be your friend, on the board, and I can learn some more ultra modern slang.
Sorry Coach Dantonio. I'll be sure to not do it again, sir.
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:37 pm to bengalbait
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I can still remember Urbs first talk at the Polk County gator club before his first year when he said in order to play for UF a player would have to be not only exceptional on the field but also in the classroom and the community. And we see how that worked out for him. He's a devious SOB that will eventually do the same thing to Ohio State.
The difference being that Ohio State is a destination job. More to lose, ya know?
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
damn the high school football in Ohio and Michigan must be REALLY shitty.
Pathetic Yanks
Pathetic Yanks
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:13 pm to the808bass
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the808bass
I'm not going to get to too much into this because OSU may well be oversigning and while I don't like it, if you don't do it you can be left behind
However, if this article went in and did some research on what happened to these OSU players, they would realize Meyer wasn't cutting wholesale like is implied. OSU lost like 10 LBers in a 4 year span to injuries/transfers etc. I say this because that left OSU with no depth at an entire position. If Meyer was cutting people he sure as shite would do it across the board to make sure he had talent left at all positions.
Meyer wouldn't oversign, then get rid of 1 position so that position sucked for years
Additionally, Armani Reeves missed 6 games last year due to concussions. He was OSU's starting nickle. Once again, you wouldn't cut someone who was a solid starter
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:20 pm to Buckeye06
quote:Have you taken the time to research some of the SEC programs that you accuse of oversigning? To get a better understanding of the circumstances surrounding the depatures of players due to injury, transfer, arrests, academic ineligibility, etc.?
I'm not going to get to too much into this because OSU may well be oversigning and while I don't like it, if you don't do it you can be left behind However, if this article went in and did some research on what happened to these OSU players, they would realize Meyer wasn't cutting wholesale like is implied. OSU lost like 10 LBers in a 4 year span to injuries/transfers etc. I say this because that left OSU with no depth at an entire position. If Meyer was cutting people he sure as shite would do it across the board to make sure he had talent left at all positions. Meyer wouldn't oversign, then get rid of 1 position so that position sucked for years Additionally, Armani Reeves missed 6 games last year due to concussions. He was OSU's starting nickle. Once again, you wouldn't cut someone who was a solid starter
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:20 pm to Mohican
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B1G way more than it would for the SEC to do it vice versa. There is talent up North, sure, but the South doesn't need to supplement. Other regions do. Meyer has said so himself on several occasions.
An OL camp here or there might up north be good for an SEC team
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:If some conferences are allowing coaches to evaluate high school players in summer camps during NCAA dead periods, then the SEC should allow the same for SEC coaches.
“It’s great for high school players,” Oxbridge Academy coach Doug Socha said earlier this month. “The cost to go to these camps is so significantly less than a family making a commitment to visit a school up north. I think it’s a good thing.” “If you can get in one location and get in front of a lot of coaches, there’s huge value to that.”
Meyer/Harbaugh and any other coaches are using loophole to their advantage. I don't blame them one bit - but the SEC needs to pull the restrictions on our coaches.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:29 pm to BuckeyeFan87
Your hook is too shiny.
Also, lol at the OSU fan complaining about over signing when they do it too.
Also, lol at the OSU fan complaining about over signing when they do it too.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:30 pm to Buckeye06
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I'm not going to get to too much into this because OSU may well be oversigning and while I don't like it, if you don't do it you can be left behind
Well. That's quite a change of pace.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:35 pm to RT1941
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Have you taken the time to research some of the SEC programs that you accuse of oversigning? To get a better understanding of the circumstances surrounding the depatures of players due to injury, transfer, arrests, academic ineligibility, etc.?
I didn't accuse anyone about over-signing anywhere in any of my posts. That was someone else.
You can apologize
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 6/18/15 at 7:46 pm to the808bass
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Well. That's quite a change of pace.
We're gonna do them a solid to help them get down to 85 for this season by taking 4* Marcelys Jones as a transfer.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:57 pm to BluegrassBelle
So, in the chart, of the top-12 teams in number of players signed, 11 were from the SEC. But hey, they don't oversign in the SEC!
Simple solution, you can only sign the number of players for which you have a scholarship on signing day. That LOI is binding for both player and school and it's a 4-year guarantee (barring off the field issues).
Apply that rule to all of the power 5 and this problem goes away quickly.
Simple solution, you can only sign the number of players for which you have a scholarship on signing day. That LOI is binding for both player and school and it's a 4-year guarantee (barring off the field issues).
Apply that rule to all of the power 5 and this problem goes away quickly.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 12:04 am to TSipper
Pardon me if I don't take advice from a fan of the original king of over signing
Posted on 6/19/15 at 12:13 am to TSipper
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the chart, of the top-12 teams in number of players signed, 11 were from the SEC. But hey, they don't oversign in the SEC!
It was just a comparison of the SEC versus the B1G. Reading is hard though, so I will cut you some slack. Your worst day reading versus my best or something.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 2:00 am to TSipper
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That LOI is binding for both player and school and it's a 4-year guarantee (barring off the field issues).
Do we really want to go into the number of players that were trap-doored between Mack Brown and Charlie Strong?
Posted on 6/19/15 at 2:03 am to Buckeye Backer
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Until the SEC stops their practice of oversigning,
The SEC has a rule that there can be no more than 25 LOIs received over the course of any academic year.
PERIOD. That means if you sign 25 players on NSD that don't back count and 2 never make it in, YOU CAN'T SIGN 27 THE FOLLOWING SEASON.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 4:19 am to Alert Mi
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For some reason, I still feel that the general consensus among LSU fans is that Alabama is now and always has been reliant on talent from Louisiana. It is weird.
Why do your coaches recruit the state so hard then? Without Louisiana, you're nothing.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:13 am to genuineLSUtiger
So the SEC has 11 of the top 12 schools that oversign, yet can only sign 25 LOI? How is that possible? Again, like i said, until the SEC as a conference stops the practice of oversigning, then i say these camps are fair game!
Posted on 6/19/15 at 6:21 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Satellite Camps... I have no issue with these. If there are some athletes out there who can pick up a scholarship that they otherwise wouldn't have gotten, then I'm all for it. The extra exposure for them is a great thing,
I also don't think these camps will have a lasting effect.
Why?
Here in the SEC, we are a spoiled lot. There is a wealth of talent and that talent matches up as good or better than most around the country. The SEC teams won't need to do these camps.
What about the B1G? PAC? Well, they will do these camps likely in our states, but there is a diminishing rate of return. These camps are a business choice, and if the returns dont equal the energy, time and money used, they won't be around long.
The high school athletes, despite all of the recruiting efforts of the schools, almost always have a short list before recruiting ever gets focused. I doubt these camps will sway this part of the population.
I also don't think these camps will have a lasting effect.
Why?
Here in the SEC, we are a spoiled lot. There is a wealth of talent and that talent matches up as good or better than most around the country. The SEC teams won't need to do these camps.
What about the B1G? PAC? Well, they will do these camps likely in our states, but there is a diminishing rate of return. These camps are a business choice, and if the returns dont equal the energy, time and money used, they won't be around long.
The high school athletes, despite all of the recruiting efforts of the schools, almost always have a short list before recruiting ever gets focused. I doubt these camps will sway this part of the population.
Posted on 6/19/15 at 7:05 am to Jobu93
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What about the B1G? PAC? Well, they will do these camps likely in our states, but there is a diminishing rate of return. These camps are a business choice, and if the returns dont equal the energy, time and money used, they won't be around long.
The high school athletes, despite all of the recruiting efforts of the schools, almost always have a short list before recruiting ever gets focused. I doubt these camps will sway this part of the population.
I generally think these camps are going to help more kids get offers to lower level schools, and if that is the case, then good for them.
For a school like Ohio State, it allowed the coaches a full day with Nick Bosa Trevon Grimes and other top recruits in South Florida without the recruits having to pay out of their own pocket to be face to face and get a day of coaching from OSU coaches.
I agree most kids have a top 5 or 10 in their heads before they even get their first offer. However, if a kid has both Ohio State and Texas A&M in his top 5, then OSU is getting an extra chance to see the kid face to face in Florida than A&M is. OSU is using it to get a free day with the kids they already want
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