re: Offseason Thread: Is Kirby smarter than a shrimp boat captain?

It must suck knowing your smart coach lost to that guy.












...and lost bad.

If you want facts:

2016
KS East 3-3
EO East 1-1

KS West 1-1
EO West 4-1

KS non-conf. 3-1
EO non-conf. 0-0

KS post season 1-0
EO post season 1-0


2017
KS East 6-0
EO East 2-0

KS West 1-1
EO West 4-2

KS non-conf. 4-0
EO non-conf. 3-1

KS post season 2-1
EO post season 0-1


2018
KS East 6-0
EO East 1-1

KS West 1-1
EO West 4-2

KS non-conf. 4-0
EO non-conf. 4-0

KS post season 0-2
EO post season 1-0







KS
2016
East 3-3
West 1-1
non-conf. 3-1
post season 1-0

North Carolina W 33–24
Nicholls State W 26–24
Missouri W 28–27
Ole Miss L 14–45
Tennessee L 31–34
South Carolina W 28–14
Vanderbilt L 16–17
Florida L 10–24
Kentucky W 27–24
Auburn W 13–7
Louisiana–Lafayette W 35–21
Georgia Tech L 27–28
TCU (Liberty Bowl) W 31–23


2017
East 6-0
West 1-1
non-conf. 4-0
post season 2-1

Appalachian State W 31–10
Notre Dame W 20–19
Samford W 42–14
Mississippi State W 31–3
Tennessee W 41–0
Vanderbilt W 45–14
Missouri W 53–28
Florida W 42–7
South Carolina W 24–10
Auburn L 17–40
Kentucky W 42–13
Georgia Tech W 38–7
Auburn (SECCG) W 28–7
Oklahoma (Rose Bowl – CFP Semifinal) W 54–48
Alabama (CFP National Championship) L 23–26


2018
East 6-0
West 1-1
non-conf. 4-0
post season 0-2

Austin Peay W 45–0
South Carolina W 41–17
Middle Tennessee W 49–7
Missouri W 43–29
Tennessee W 38–12
Vanderbilt W 41–13
LSU L 16–36
Florida W 36–17
Kentucky W 34–17
Auburn W 27–10
UMass W 66–27
Georgia Tech W 45–21
Alabama (SEC Championship Game) L 28–35
Texas (Sugar Bowl) L 21–28



EO
2016
East 1-1
West 4-1
non-conf. 0-0
post season 1-0

Missouri W 42–7
Southern Miss W 45–10
Ole Miss W 38–21
Alabama L 0–10
Arkansas W 38–10
Florida L 10–16
Texas A&M W 54–39
Louisville (Citrus Bowl) W 29–9


2017
East 2-0
West 4-2
non-conf. 3-1
post season 0-1

BYU W 27–0
Chattanooga W 45–10
Mississippi State L 7–37
Syracuse W 35–26
Troy L 21–24
Florida W 17–16
Auburn W 27–23
Ole Miss W 40–24
Alabama L 10–24
Arkansas W 33–10
Tennessee W 30–10
Texas A&M W 45–21
Notre Dame (Citrus Bowl) L 17–21


2018
East 1-1
West 4-2
non-conf. 4-0
post season 1-0

Miami (FL) W 33–17
Southeastern Louisiana W 31–0
Auburn W 22–21
Louisiana Tech W 38–21
Ole Miss W 45–16
Florida L 19–27
Georgia W 36–16
Mississippi State W 19–3
Alabama L 0–29
Arkansas W 24–17
Rice W 42–10
Texas A&M L 72–74
UCF (Fiesta Bowl) W 40–32

Kirby's taken his team into December playing for the CFP in every year except his first.

Kirby beat #2 AU for the SECC. Beat #2 OU in the Rose Bowl. Took Bama to OT in the MNC.

O averages 3.3 ppg vs. Bama....ungood.

O had a monster game vs. my Dawgs, I'll hand him that. He also lost to UF and A&M...and Bama of course

Kirby’s blowout losses every year against the West sure are puzzling.

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How many would Kirby have if he weren't in the East?

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Any answer would be pure speculation.

What is NOT speculation, but pure fact, is that Kirby has already won one SEC Championship in his first three years as a head coach. The shrimp boat captain? Nada.

Again, no speculation, just fact. So if you want to hold a strong personal belief that Coach O is smarter than Kirby, shoots pool better than Kirby, can scrap book better than Kirby, whatever better than Kirby - go right ahead. But he sure doesn't win SEC Championships better than Kirby. And that is not based on belief, just pure unalterable proof.

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Georgia would be competing against L8U for 3rd in the West in most years...

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FTFY

now let's do OOC games in the same time period!

OOC record:

UGA under Kirby

2016: 4-1
2017: 5-0
2018: 4-1

Totals: 13-2


LSU under the Shrimp Boat Captain

2016: 1-0
2017: 3-2
2018: 5-0

Totals: 9-2


on the surface, UGA looks to have a better record; but the Shrimp Boat Captain did miss out on 3 OOC games as the head guy in 2016; however, we cannot change the fact that only ONE of these men has a winless year in OOC games...

so let's take a look at common foes in that time frame

Notre Dame - this is a school that UGA beat on the road and LSU lost to in a neutral location

this is not really a big deal, as Notre Dame is a top tier program and gave UGA a really tight game, and yes, LSU does only have 1 more OOC loss.

but, diving a little deeper, we have to look at one very important stat; losses to lower division schools AND homecoming loses

UGA - none

LSU - TROY

so the answer is clear, YES, Kirby IS smarter than a shrimp boat captain

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Given the choice of anyone else or Kirby, I would still take Kirby..

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They are excellent vacuums.

You're really harping on the 1 SEC Championship. Props to Georgia for pulling it off, but it would not have happened against Bama. I'm sorry look at the National Championship game that year. Sure you beat Auburn, but so did LSU the same season. And you had to play them twice to beat them. Georgia has had some impressive wins, but that just makes O's 20 point win against Kirby even better. In conclusion, neither can beat Saban. So I guess you can say they're in the same shrimp boat.