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mattloc
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Objective look at White targeting penalty

I have purposely refrained from posting this for a few days to allow emotions to cool and to try to consider this from a purely objective perspective....let me start by saying that I believe the rule to be too harsh and that modifications should be based on flagrant and incidental distinctions. This is an NCAA rule... not an SEC rule. The SEC has been told it must be enforced to prevent concussion related litigation.

A helmet-to-helmet hit can be a targeting foul, but all targeting fouls are not necessarily helmet-to-helmet hits.



No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)

"Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area"



Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14):

A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.


Here is the link to the video: White clearly "launches"

You Tube


Don't agree with the rule.... but the official did his job and made the correct call as the rules now stand


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You're just wasting your time at this point dude


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ell_13
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White clearly "launches"
He didn't leave his feet, you retard.


TigerFan4040
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Objective look at White targeting penalty


Objectively, you can suck that tiger dick.


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Teague
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He didn't leave his feet,


That's not the hill you want to die on.


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thunderbird1100
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That is more targeting than White's hit. Heck, White still has a foot on the ground when he's making contact, doesn't really seem like much "launching" to me, and certainly not at the head/neck are when he hits in the chest area first with his hand.


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mattloc
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He didn't leave his feet, you retard



look at it again


whitefoot
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Sorry, but where is the "forcible contact to the head or neck area"?

The chest is not the neck.


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An ACTUAL Objective look at White targeting penalty

Dean Waite, a former SEC official who graduated from the University of Georgia with an undergraduate and law degrees, who now practices law in Mobile, Alabama, has explained his opinion. Waite officiated SEC games from 2007-10.

Waite recently told AL.com that he would have handled the review process differently about White being ejected for targeting Mississippi State QB Nick Fitzgerald.

“I’m OK with the call on the field live,” Waite said of the White penalty. “It looked enough like it that I’m OK with it being called. I think when they looked at it, however, they should’ve taken the call away.”

“You definitely have a defenseless player,” he said. “He was in the act of throwing or just got finished throwing, so he was a defenseless player. Basically, the rule says you can’t target or make forceable contact with the head or neck area of a defenseless player with the helmet. It even includes the forearm, hand, fist, elbow, shoulder, anything. You just can’t go to the head or neck area.”

In Waite’s opinion, there wasn’t enough there to constitute an ejection.

“In order to call a foul, you have to have to one element or indicator of targeting,” he said. “Some of those indicators are a launch, lowering the head before making contact. What I saw, on replay, was a guy going in. He did lead with his forearms, but what he did was he hit the guy in the chest with his forearm. I didn’t see any effort to hit in the neck or head area. Now, their helmets did wind up making contact a little bit, but that was a result of the shove.”

Though it appeared to Waite that White launched himself.

“It does look like his feet came off the ground,” Waite admitted. “But again, I didn’t see any effort to go to the neck or head area. It just isn’t leaving your feet. You have to be launching to attack your opponent in the head or neck area.”

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LC412000
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Appreciate your review of the situation


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ell_13
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look at it again
Running with your upper body and hands forward isn't launching. The definition of launching is leaving your feet. Dude never hit the ground.


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whitefoot
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It just isn’t leaving your feet. You have to be launching to attack your opponent in the head or neck area.”

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It just isn’t leaving your feet.


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You have to be launching to attack your opponent in the head or neck area.”


Guava Jelly
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Objective look

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White clearly "launches"


Eat a dick.


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LSU_PETE_2012
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"Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area"


Where in that video did you see upward and forward? I'm not saying it was, or wasn't targeting, but can you really say he "clearly" launched when his next foot came down in step?


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Cump11b
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Hush Greg Stankey, you boys batched it.


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Clockwatcher68
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quote: He didn't leave his feet, you retard look at it again


His feet were squarely on the ground when he made contact, and he remained upright after the tackle. Do you expect him to moonwalk to the quarterback?


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Undertow
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If you want to, you can make almost any tackle fit into that definition. Any tackle in which the defenders feet are not on the ground could be called targeting if it is looked at with your mindset.

Don’t overthink it. Watch the replay. White shoved him in the chest just after the ball was released. It doesn’t even reach roughing the passer, let alone targeting.


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Tiger Roux
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He could have hurt that QB bad, kind of like your guy did to Tenn QB.
in this case he held way back did not launch or lead with his head and pushed the QB down.

even your own lord/coach is on the record of bama's cheating ways. Add this one to the long list.


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