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re: Now that schedules are out, let's predict the West next year...

Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by TidenUP
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:28 pm to
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but our TOs kept them in the game.


No no. You can't use LLLLLSU's excuse from 2019 vs Vandy against them.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:29 pm to
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I think this is right to a point, but we don’t need to exaggerate how well they were playing at the end. The easily could have lost to OM, and they got VERY lucky not to lose to UF.



Agree - they were a Top 20-25 team at the end of the year. That team probably goes 8-4 in a normal regular season.

But it's reasonable to look at it and say you return most of a Top 20/25 team and feel like they can possibly be a Top 10 team if there is across the board improvement.

JMHO
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:30 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:34 pm to
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But it's reasonable to look at it and say you return most of a Top 20/25 team and feel like they can possibly be a Top 10 team if there is across the board improvement.

Very similar to what you and I were saying about A&M coming into 2020.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:36 pm to
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That’s big expectations


Who is their QB again?

Ya, those are HUGE expectations.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:37 pm to
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Very similar to what you and I were saying about A&M coming into 2020.



Yep - and I think LSU has a bit higher ceiling because their QB is less of a known (plus the skill guys) and could have a higher ceiling. On the flip side, the LSU defense is a much bigger unknown than the A&M defense was.

That was always the thing that we both (and others, including A&M fans) said about A&M. They should be better, even quite better, but the QB situation (along with skill guys at WR) really lowered their ceiling.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:37 pm to
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But it's reasonable to look at it and say you return most of a Top 20/25 team and feel like they can possibly be a Top 10 team if there is across the board improvement.


I agree. On the other hand, they have Ed. They have a new coaching staff. There are signs of discord in the ranks. Things could turn south. What they have going for them, of course, is an abundant of talent on the roster.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:38 pm to
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No you couldn’t.

UF could have easily beat us, but we weren’t lucky to win. We won every statistical category. As we did with Vandy in game 1, but our TOs kept them in the game.


And you still could've lost to those teams just as easily as LSU could've to UF and Ole Miss.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:39 pm to
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There are signs of discord in the ranks


Link?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:39 pm to
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I agree. On the other hand, they have Ed. They have a new coaching staff. There are signs of discord in the ranks. Things could turn south. What they have going for them, of course, is an abundant of talent on the roster.



Absolutely - LSU probably has the widest range of reasonable outcomes for 2021 of anyone in the conference. They could get it all back together, play to their potential and be a 10-2 team battling for the division. They could also prove that the issues last year were in fact deep, go 7-5 and get O fired.

I'm not sure either would shock me, to be honest. My gut feeling leans more towards them improving and being good but not great, but them being good on offense and still below average on defense and going 8-4 would not shock me.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:41 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:42 pm to
i know. it's my observation sog is actually one of the better personalities on the board but on that particular thread he went off the rails a bit. happens to all of us i guess
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:43 pm to
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SECRant hasn't been around that long
you know non lsu fans used to post on tigerrant, right?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:44 pm to
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The easily could have lost to OM
this is always such a stupid comment. "could have" is subjective. did not is objective.

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they got VERY lucky not to lose to UF
did you see the line for the game?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:45 pm to
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i know. it's my observation sog is actually one of the better personalities on the board but on that particular thread he went off the rails a bit. happens to all of us i guess



Absolutely it does - sometimes we get deep into it and it's almost impossible to find our way out. I'd argue that the off the rails wasn't just me (or even me), but agree to disagree


This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:46 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:46 pm to
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Aggies take a step back down to normalcy this year
see auburn fans have a right to say this. they've been in the top 3 regularly. if ag ends up there, it would be highly unusual. it's the same situation with bama. until they prove they consistently don't end up at the top, i'm not picking against them
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:49 pm to
1. Bama 15-0
2. A&M. 11-2
3. Ol Miss. 10-3
4. AU. 9-4
5. Miss St. 8-5
6 LSU 8-4*
7. Ark 7-5

* Loses heads up to MSU. Declines bowl bid due to Covid Outbreak
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:50 pm to
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they can possibly be a Top 10 team if there is across the board improvement
the most obvious unknown are the coordinators. the talent is clearly there on both sides of the ball. lsu is wicked talented at the skill positions on offense. solid line returns on both sides. the dbacks showed improvement but you still have stingley/ricks which might be the best combo in the league. the only question mark is lb but o seems to be on a mission there.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14414 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:53 pm to
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you know non lsu fans used to post on tigerrant, right?


And when did Tigerdroppings start? Serious question.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:55 pm to
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their QB is less of a known
lsu's qb's? i would take either of lsu's qb's over mond. both were really strong and consistent. mond had his moments but, not many of them. you always knew what mond was going to be - physically capable but inconsistent

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On the flip side, the LSU defense is a much bigger unknown than the A&M defense was
maybe from a coordinator standpoint but not from a talent standpoint. lsu's returning roster on d is pretty awesome. lb is up in the air
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:56 pm to
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lsu's qb's? i would take either of lsu's qb's over mond. both were really strong and consistent. mond had his moments but, not many of them. you always knew what mond was going to be - physically capable but inconsistent


Yea, that was really my point - not that LSU QBs were unknown from a "can they play" standpoint, but unknown as in we aren't sure how good they can be. The room for growth/ceiling is much higher.

Like you said - we knew exactly what Mond was gonna be, and because of that, we knew A&M would have limitations.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 8:57 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/27/21 at 8:58 pm to
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On the other hand, they have Ed
the guy has really done well. the two misses, pelini and canada, were both well thought of before they got to lsu. and even then, o made the change with the quickness.

one thing is for sure, he doesn't seem to stuck on bbq buddies. he seems to really ask around and get feedback.

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There are signs of discord in the ranks
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