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re: Notre Dame takes shots at Brian Kelly for no reason?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:22 pm to 3down10
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:22 pm to 3down10
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I'd take Kiffin over BK or Sark though.
I'd take Kiffin over BK based on age alone. I think they're very similar in ways. Neither are super likable, BK can come across as a pretentious douche; Kiffin can seem immature. Both are way too aggressive on 4th down calls. Defense comes second to both.
I don't know about Sark though, I'd probably lean Kiffin but couldn't justify it quantifiably.
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:41 pm to Colonel Ingus
Dude not a bit of difference between .697 and .714. When measured over only a few years for Freeman at ND.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:45 pm to 3down10
If we want to be the most genuine, the true question is: What is Freeman’s ceiling at ND?
Brian Kelly hit his ceiling at ND, and though he was able to win 10 games with an “easier” schedule as some LSU fans argue, he wasn’t able to consistently take down ranked teams. His ceiling was capped at being a contender with no hardware there. He parlays that into a new job, and moves to LSU where he feels his ceiling is a National Championship team with additional resources there. The irony is him currently chipping in $1M of his own money for recruits.
For Freeman, for Kelly to be right, Kelly is saying Freeman’s ceiling is the same as his, contender without hardware there bc of what ND is and it’s lacking commitment to football.
I don’t know what Freeman’s ceiling is at ND, but his playoff run shows he is capable of winning the whole thing in a harder, longer playoff system that Kelly didn’t deal with at ND.
Brian Kelly hit his ceiling at ND, and though he was able to win 10 games with an “easier” schedule as some LSU fans argue, he wasn’t able to consistently take down ranked teams. His ceiling was capped at being a contender with no hardware there. He parlays that into a new job, and moves to LSU where he feels his ceiling is a National Championship team with additional resources there. The irony is him currently chipping in $1M of his own money for recruits.
For Freeman, for Kelly to be right, Kelly is saying Freeman’s ceiling is the same as his, contender without hardware there bc of what ND is and it’s lacking commitment to football.
I don’t know what Freeman’s ceiling is at ND, but his playoff run shows he is capable of winning the whole thing in a harder, longer playoff system that Kelly didn’t deal with at ND.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:14 pm to ColoradoElkHerd
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Dude not a bit of difference between .697 and .714. When measured over only a few years for Freeman at ND.
What about .697 and .739?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:15 pm to JayAg
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but his playoff run shows he is capable of winning the whole thing in a harder, longer playoff system
How so?
He beat the teams he was supposed to and lost to the "big dog," as much as a two loss team could be a "big dog".
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:27 pm to SidewalkTiger
Idk dude, hard to tell with it being a down year in the SEC. QB play across the board was bad. We didn’t have a Heisman representative?
Next year, either ND will beat A&M and Arkansas in the first part of the season, or they won’t. Then LSU will get their shots at A&M and Arkansas too.
Maybe A&M and Arkansas will shock some people, but even tho I believe A&M will/or can beat ND, Vegas probably has ND going 2-0 vs A&M and Arkansas. I hope my team breaks their bank that week.
Next year, either ND will beat A&M and Arkansas in the first part of the season, or they won’t. Then LSU will get their shots at A&M and Arkansas too.
Maybe A&M and Arkansas will shock some people, but even tho I believe A&M will/or can beat ND, Vegas probably has ND going 2-0 vs A&M and Arkansas. I hope my team breaks their bank that week.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:40 pm to JayAg
ND is the 70 year old woman who was hot in her youth and now, upset that all the plastic surgery she has gotten the past 20 years in a vain attempt to bring back her beauty, loudly proclaims when she is drunk that guy's 30 years younger than her still want her even though none of them are ever around her.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 7:05 pm to John Casey
ND was pretty banged up by injuries too which nobody ever mentions . Had to deal with it The whole playoffs if I remember correctly
Posted on 6/4/25 at 7:49 pm to JayAg
quote:There are signs regarding Kelly that aren't positive. The 3 game losing streak last season is a perfect illustration. When aggy changed qb's, LSU was toast. Kelly couldn't adjust. Over and over he watched the aggy qb scorch them. Following game vs Bama, Milroe could have run for a 1000 yards if he wanted. No adjustment. Vs Florida, all I could do was shake my head.
Brian Kelly hit his ceiling at ND
His only decent defense since he's been at LSU was his first season. He wanted to be judged on his third year and that was a failure. He has time to change perception because of his contract length. Man, I just don't see it. Les Miles is far superior coach compared to BK. Les just couldn't find a qb. Too bad Les didn't have the advantage of endless transfers so he could have bought a legit qb.
BK says this is his best roster since he has been at LSU. I need to see to believe.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 7:58 pm to JayAg
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Marcus Freeman Is Doing What Brian Kelly Couldn't at Notre Dame: Building a True Power
LMAO
Kelly still has a better record than Freeman at ND and Freemsn got embarrassed in the playoffs. Keep in mind that a 4 -team playoff and Notre Dame is not in last year
Posted on 6/4/25 at 7:58 pm to JayAg
Dame will turn on Freeman in a year or two. They suck.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:00 pm to JayAg
LSU fans say the same shite about BK every year after Week 0/1, and will be saying the same this year after Clemson gives him them the business.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:01 pm to Mike Da Tiga1
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Freemsn got embarrassed in the playoffs.
Iirc they won several playoff games last year and made it to the title game
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:05 pm to BigLeague
BK was not responsible for the death of the young man. You are a liar.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:16 pm to kajunman
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Les Miles is far superior coach compared to BK. Les just couldn't find a qb. Too bad Les didn't have the advantage of endless transfers so he could have bought a legit qb.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:25 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:This response got some downvotes, but it's the truth.quote:
The fact Freeman got his team to the playoff and beat Georgia in the process is why the ND beat writers are writing such an article.
Yeah, never mind the fact that Georgia was bad enough to lose two regular season games and also lost their starting quarterback.
This is DEI style reasoning. Lower standards then pretend the achievements still mean the same.
Georgia in the bowl game is like Texas baseball at the end of the season- a huge key injury that significantly lessened the team's prospects. And as was pointed out, this UGA team wasn't to the standards of previous ones to begin with.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:25 pm to kajunman
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Against top ten opponents, Kelly carded a 3-8 record with five of the eight games being losses of more than two touchdowns. This 27% success rate against the best teams in the biggest games
OMG this same tired old narrative about BK, the dude restored Notre Dame football back to major relevance, led them to a national title game and two Playoff appearances
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He's had one big win at LSU and lost every opener.
Alongside the Alabama win, he beat
#7 Ole Miss 2022
#21 Mizzou 2023 ON THE ROAD (they ended up going 11-2, winning the Cotton Bowl, and LSU's win cost Mizzou a possible playoff berth)
#9 Ole Miss 2024
Also, he's won every bowl game as LSU coach
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:31 pm to Tornado Alley
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This win doesn't count because LSU fans decided the 2023 team wasn't good.
Still won 10 games and produced a Heisman winner and 2 first round WRs
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Tulane went 11-3 in 2023 but didn't finish ranked in either the AP or Coaches poll.
We beat them 37-20, but they were missing their star QB, Michael Pratt, when we beat them.
Outside of the Michael Pratt situation, and?
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Yeah, we wore them out.
Darn right you did
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:32 pm to Scoob
That’s like saying when LSU last beat Bama, we should take into account that team was below Bama Standards, no?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:48 pm to JayAg
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That’s like saying when LSU last beat Bama, we should take into account that team was below Bama Standards, no?
I would say below Notre Dame standards.
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