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re: Notre Dame takes shots at Brian Kelly for no reason?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:18 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:18 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I think it was the best option available at the time, much like DeBoer for you guys.
Huh? There was only one coach I would have taken over him and that was Kirby.
So I mean yeah he was the best available option, but it's not because it was a limited pool.
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:19 pm to JayAg
Eh...I have no love loss for LSU, 
But just pointing out that the Leprachauns aren't much better off with Freeman than they were with ol Brian.
But just pointing out that the Leprachauns aren't much better off with Freeman than they were with ol Brian. 
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:20 pm to 3down10
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Huh? There was only one coach I would have taken over him and that was Kirby.
So I mean yeah he was the best available option, but it's not because it was a limited pool.
That's what I mean, he was the best hire available at the time.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:20 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Freeman hasn’t done anything there Kelly didn’t
Did Kelly beat the SEC champ in a playoff type game when he was there?
He beat Clemson at home I believe when Lawrence didn't play. When they played later in the year they lost by 4 TDs
UGA was not the best SEC champ over the last 10 years for sure, but in those games before ND couldn't compete on the lines. In the Sugar Bowl, they were good on the lines and won a ton of one on one battles, and we all can agree UGA has good trench play over the past 5 years
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:25 pm to Buckeye06
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Did Kelly beat the SEC champ in a playoff type game when he was there?
He beat Clemson at home I believe when Lawrence didn't play. When they played later in the year they lost by 4 TDs
People always include the fact that Kelly only beat #1 Clemson when the starter didn't play.
No mention of Georgia's starter not playing, or the fact that the "SEC champ" also had 2 regular season losses for the first time in a long time.
Almost like there's a dishonest agenda here.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:29 pm to Buckeye06
Reference my post earlier... Did Kelly lose to North Illinois (MAC conference), Marshall (Sunbelt conference) or a 3-9 Stanford team at Notre Dame? Yeah, Freeman took down UGA last season with 3 of our OL starters injured and starting QB out, but I don't make excuses because of injuries, so I'll give him that one. It was an impressive win, probably more than anything BK did. But he's had some reeeeeal clunkers at ND.
I personally don't think BK or Freeman are all that good.
I personally don't think BK or Freeman are all that good.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:38 pm to SidewalkTiger
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No mention of Georgia's starter not playing, or the fact that the "SEC champ" also had 2 regular season losses for the first time in a long time.
I don't know why them having 2 losses matters. They were the best team in certainly one of the best conferences. Ohio State won the national title with 2 Ls.
Not having their QB obviously matters, but QB play isn't what lost them the game IMO. There were a couple big plays that ND made on defense and special teams that UGA didn't match.
UGA had WRs with stone hands all season and it cost them. UGA ran for 60 yards on 30 carries. They didn't have the overall team to win it last year. ND was better on the lines and dare I say looked to have better athletes.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:40 pm to SidewalkTiger
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No mention of Georgia's starter not playing
Bc it was Beck and he is really bad. He was collapsing at the end. UGAs best QB will always be Aaron Murray.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
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That's what I mean, he was the best hire available at the time.
That phrase is to suggest a limited selection and as if that is the hire that was settled on. That's not remotely the case.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:51 pm to Buckeye06
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I don't know why them having 2 losses matters.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:56 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I don't know why them having 2 losses matters.
Should we not count LSU's 2007 national title because they lost 2 games.
It's an absurd thing to say. If the SEC is really good top to bottom then the best teams won't win every game annually. If the SEC is top heavy, as they were often in the 2017-2022 range, then teams will go undefeated more often
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:57 pm to 3down10
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That phrase is to suggest a limited selection and as if that is the hire that was settled on. That's not remotely the case.
I mean it's always technically a "limited selection", everyone isn't available just due to salary, location, timing, etc.
I just thought DeBoer was the best option, certainly better than Mike Norvell IMO.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:58 pm to JayAg
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UGAs best QB will always be Aaron Murray.
Better than Stafford and Tarkenton?
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:59 pm to SidewalkTiger
The real problem is the ND and LSU beat writers going tic for tac, doing petty reports on each other at the end of the day.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:59 pm to kajunman
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Kelly is not a great coach.
According to what? He’s the winningest active head coach in college football right now, the only thing missing from his resume is a national title, that’s it, he’s done everything else
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:00 pm to 3down10
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Huh? There was only one coach I would have taken over him and that was Kirby. So I mean yeah he was the best available option, but it's not because it was a limited pool.
According to Byrne, he also looked at Lanning at Oregon too
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:02 pm to Darindawg
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Eh...I have no love lost for LSU, But just pointing out that the Leprachauns aren't much better off with Freeman than they were with ol Brian.
Eh time will tell, the way the Irish have played football, especially offensive football, in the modern spread era, outside of the Brady Quinn years, isn’t conducive to beating more athletic, more talented teams and that’s typically who Notre Dame will have to beat to win their first natty since 1988.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:06 pm to SidewalkTiger
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They performed decently vs teams with non elite skill talent (especially in the passing game), and got dominated when they ran into someone that had that type of skill talent.
Notre Dame didn't get "dominated" all year, much less by Ohio State. The national championship game was a one-score game in the 4th quarter.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:08 pm to Buckeye06
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Should we not count LSU's 2007 national title because they lost 2 games.
I certainly think it's fair to say that 2007 LSU was one of the weakest championship teams of the modern era.
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It's an absurd thing to say. If the SEC is really good top to bottom then the best teams won't win every game annually. If the SEC is top heavy, as they were often in the 2017-2022 range, then teams will go undefeated more often
They were the first two regular season loss SEC champion since 2007 LSU, with their starting quarterback.
Removing their starter and then pretending that Notre Dame is suddenty better because Freeman beat the SEC champion is asinine.
Notre Dame isn't suddenly better because they beat the SEC champion, that was just the worst SEC champion in a long time.
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:09 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I mean it's always technically a "limited selection", everyone isn't available just due to salary, location, timing, etc. I just thought DeBoer was the best option, certainly better than Mike Norvell IMO.
Honestly if Alabama people weren’t so stock full of self-importance and self-righteousness, Kiffin would’ve been a great hire as he’s from the Saban coaching rehab tree and was the OC for 3 CFP teams, 3 SEC title teams, a national runner-up, and national champion and coaches a modern offense. He was clearly pining for that job throughout the whole 2023 season. As long as he’s at Ole Miss, Kiffin will always be a commodity for a head coaching spot at a better program.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 4:13 pm
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