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Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:19 am to Bamafig
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Not trolling, but I don’t remember anything about this guy’s career at UGA. I see that he was injured some or all of last year. Is his stock built on reputation and potential alone?
Same here, I watched UGA quite a bit and I was surprised Smith is running with the EDGE rushers instead of linebacker group. I thought he was more a traditional OLB, he only has 11.5 career sacks in 4 years, with no more than 3.5 in any 1 season. Was he really used mostly as an EDGE guy at UGA? Just really low (pass rush) production for an EDGE player.
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:24 am to thunderbird1100
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Was he really used mostly as an EDGE guy at UGA? Just really low production for an EDGE player.
UGAs defense is not built around sacks. It’s built on containment and pressure in the pocket. UGA is very rarely going to have a sack leader like a Will Anderson. Look at the difference between Bama and UGA defenses.
Smith was a master at maintaining is lane, holding the edge and not breaking assignments.
I think he has the potential to be a superstar in the NFL because of the differences in the NFL game.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 8:35 am to Aguga
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UGAs defense is not built around sacks. It’s built on containment and pressure in the pocket. UGA is very rarely going to have a sack leader like a Will Anderson. Look at the difference between Bama and UGA defenses.
Smith was a master at maintaining is lane, holding the edge and not breaking assignments.
I think he has the potential to be a superstar in the NFL because of the differences in the NFL game.
Thats great and all, but Ojulari had 8.5 sacks in a 10 game shortened 2020 season there, you had 3 players with 6+ sacks in 2021
Smith never had more than 3.5 in any 1 season.
I'm not saying the guy should have had a 15 sack season, but 3.5 is the best in 4 years is pretty low for a true EDGE guy. Heck Perkins here this year wasnt even a true EDGE player by any means (only rushed passer 162 total times in 514 snaps) and had 8.5 sacks himself.
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 9:29 am to thunderbird1100
He basically is a super athletic edge defender who can do a lot of things and has no ego. You can count on him to maintain his lane, which is a good trait for team defense but does lead to less individual sacks.
I’m not sure I’d describe him as an elite edge rusher but would rather have him on my team than not, mostly because he does his job and can cover ground.
I’m not sure I’d describe him as an elite edge rusher but would rather have him on my team than not, mostly because he does his job and can cover ground.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:15 am to Crowknowsbest
Bama through and through, but Will Anderson concerns me. A freak athlete with great stats but was curiously absent or ineffective in big games/moments. Every game is huge in the NFL.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:38 am to tissle
There could no doubt be 8-9 of the top 10 picks be SEC guys
Posted on 3/3/23 at 10:55 am to Bamafig
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Bama through and through, but Will Anderson concerns me. A freak athlete with great stats but was curiously absent or ineffective in big games/moments. Every game is huge in the NFL.
Not really true his first two years, but kind of true last year. But I blame Golding for lot of that.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:08 am to Bamafig
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:43 pm to GaPhan
“Some of these guys look like they were made in a lab”
Of course
Of course
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:45 pm to thunderbird1100
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Thats great and all, but Ojulari had 8.5 sacks in a 10 game shortened 2020 season there, you had 3 players with 6+ sacks in 2021
Smith never had more than 3.5 in any 1 season.
when you have a DL that is littered with high 1st rounders that can pressure and sack the QB on their own, you aren't forced to send OLBs to blitz all the time like other teams.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:04 pm to thunderbird1100
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Smith never had more than 3.5 in any 1 season.
Uga rotates a ton, and doesn’t promote individual stat racking over team accomplishments. This probably plays a big role in our sustained success.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:27 pm to Aguga
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UGAs defense is not built around sacks. It’s built on containment and pressure in the pocket. UGA is very rarely going to have a sack leader like a Will Anderson. Look at the difference between Bama and UGA defenses.
This is one of the most idiotic takes I hear UGA fans spout. The mastermind defense is built off of not getting sacks? Ok. Your 2021 defense was top 5 in sacks. Was this an accident?
Yes, getting sacks isn’t the only thing that matters. Getting pressure is 100% important but pretending that this is a blueprint of your defense like you are in the office with Kirby is so dumb and I constantly see it on this board.
Just because Smith didn’t get a lot of sacks doesn’t mean he isn’t a Great player. And conversely, it also doesn’t mean your defense is built around “not getting sacks” that is utterly one of the most retarded things I’ve ever heard. People on this board seriously need to take a step back and stop pretending they are assistant coaches on here.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:29 pm to djsdawg
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Uga rotates a ton, and doesn’t promote individual stat racking over team accomplishments. This probably plays a big role in our sustained success.
This^. Makes far more sense than saying “UGA’s defense isn’t focused on sacks.” Lmao
Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:42 pm to FireDanMullen
Smart says that they try to create “free runners,” blitzers who are schemed to have a straight, unblocked path into the backfield, “Our goal is usually bat 60 to 70 percent on free runs because you’re not going to get them all.”
Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:53 pm to djsdawg
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Smart says that they try to create “free runners,” blitzers who are schemed to have a straight, unblocked path into the backfield, “Our goal is usually bat 60 to 70 percent on free runs because you’re not going to get them all.”
Makes sense. UGA creates a lot of chaos in the backfield. This 100% is the goal and not “we aren’t centered around getting sacks” like many posters on here say lmao
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:05 pm to FireDanMullen
But where are the sacks?
The Bulldogs have made seven sacks so far through seven games. Not terrible, but far from the sack total we saw from last year’s team that ended the season with 48.5 sacks.
Smart spoke about the defense’s lack of sacks through the first seven games...
“Yeah, it needs to get better, but we need an opportunity”, Smart said. “We did a real hard study on that and did a game-by-game breakdown of snap to throw, and it's faster than it's ever been.”
So basically, quarterbacks are getting the ball out quicker. Coaches and play-callers and making things easier for quarterbacks across the country and getting the ball out quickly. Like Smart said earlier this season, some quick pass plays are an extension of the run game, so quarterbacks aren’t sitting back in the pocket as much these days.
We've played teams that have gotten rid of the ball really, really quick”, Smart added. “I mean, the Auburn game was the only game that was over three seconds per pass and I think that factors in the scrambles, where he would run around with the ball and throw it away. So, there hasn't been a lot of opportunities, but that doesn't mean that we can't do a better job. We've studied that really, really hard, in terms of just looking at ourselves, and we're telling them, 'Hey, it's 2.6 seconds that you have to get there by.' So, you have to get there in 2.6 seconds or you have to affect the throw, and we've had several really good rushes where we affected throws in terms of bull, batting balls. And I'm saying bull as in bull rush to get someone to the quarterback to affect his throw. But it's tough to be where we are sack-wise and we're just not getting a lot of opportunities.”
The sack total may be low, but that doesn’t mean the Bulldogs aren’t getting after the quarterback. They’re creating pressure, and it’s made them one of the toughest teams to throw on in the country, giving up just 163 passing yards per game. They’re effective, and the pressure is there.
The Bulldogs have made seven sacks so far through seven games. Not terrible, but far from the sack total we saw from last year’s team that ended the season with 48.5 sacks.
Smart spoke about the defense’s lack of sacks through the first seven games...
“Yeah, it needs to get better, but we need an opportunity”, Smart said. “We did a real hard study on that and did a game-by-game breakdown of snap to throw, and it's faster than it's ever been.”
So basically, quarterbacks are getting the ball out quicker. Coaches and play-callers and making things easier for quarterbacks across the country and getting the ball out quickly. Like Smart said earlier this season, some quick pass plays are an extension of the run game, so quarterbacks aren’t sitting back in the pocket as much these days.
We've played teams that have gotten rid of the ball really, really quick”, Smart added. “I mean, the Auburn game was the only game that was over three seconds per pass and I think that factors in the scrambles, where he would run around with the ball and throw it away. So, there hasn't been a lot of opportunities, but that doesn't mean that we can't do a better job. We've studied that really, really hard, in terms of just looking at ourselves, and we're telling them, 'Hey, it's 2.6 seconds that you have to get there by.' So, you have to get there in 2.6 seconds or you have to affect the throw, and we've had several really good rushes where we affected throws in terms of bull, batting balls. And I'm saying bull as in bull rush to get someone to the quarterback to affect his throw. But it's tough to be where we are sack-wise and we're just not getting a lot of opportunities.”
The sack total may be low, but that doesn’t mean the Bulldogs aren’t getting after the quarterback. They’re creating pressure, and it’s made them one of the toughest teams to throw on in the country, giving up just 163 passing yards per game. They’re effective, and the pressure is there.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:33 pm to WG_Dawg
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when you have a DL that is littered with high 1st rounders that can pressure and sack the QB on their own, you aren't forced to send OLBs to blitz all the time like other teams.
So is he an EDGE guy or more OLB, that was kind of the original question because he didnt get many sacks in college if he was a true EDGE guy. Main purpose for any EDGE player is rushing the passer. A traditional OLB is way more multiple in terms of run defense, rushing passer playing coverage, etc...
And UGA had good dlinemen in 2020 and 2021 I'm pretty sure when I mentioned the guys with 6-8.5 sacks, and Smith was there too, so cant really use that as an excuse.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:37 pm to djsdawg
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Uga rotates a ton, and doesn’t promote individual stat racking over team accomplishments. This probably plays a big role in our sustained success.
No doubt UGA rotates guys a ton, but he did have about 256 pass rush snaps which is significant in 2021 according to PFF and only had 3.5 sacks.
Just saying the sacks were never really there for him if he was a true edge player.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 3:38 pm to thunderbird1100
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So is he an EDGE guy or more OLB, that was kind of the original question because he didnt get many sacks in college if he was a true EDGE guy. Main purpose for any EDGE player is rushing the passer. A traditional OLB is way more multiple in terms of run defense, rushing passer playing coverage, etc... And UGA had good dlinemen in 2020 and 2021 I'm pretty sure when I mentioned the guys with 6-8.5 sacks, and Smith was there too, so cant really use that as an excuse.
Smith is elite in run stopping, coverage, and IQ I’d say. And he’s above average in rushing the passer. He’s a very good overall 3-4 OLB but not elite at rushing the passer.
UGA also has Great depth so they rotate a lot. But still, If you watch his film he’s elite at many categories but isn’t elite at pass rushing. Many Georgia fans are going to cum themselves describing Kirby’s defense to me now but the reality is Smith is a great player but not Great at pass rushing.
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